NVIDIA RTX 3080Ti to launch in January 2021?

[Richdog]

You asked and I answered truthfully.
If you want to pick a fight go do it with someone else as I'm not interested.

Wow, you seem to turn overly defensive and insecure the moment anyone questions anything you write, which I did in a most reasonable manner. This usually means what that person is writing is unsubstantiated guff, so thanks for confirming my initial impressions.

 

[Nablaoperator]

Nvidia "have to have the biggest one" so they can validate selling a £1.5k+ card.

Yes.. lol.. in a literal sense

 

[Mercutio]

There was at some point some 6900XTX rumours with a card being held for the inevitable TI launch. We'll see

 

[koooowweeee]

Wow, you seem to turn overly defensive and insecure the moment anyone questions anything you write, which I did in a most reasonable manner. This usually means what that person is writing is unsubstantiated guff, so thanks for confirming my initial impressions.

He edited his post. Your on his block list
I can mediate if you want hehehe?

 

[Richdog]

There was at some point some 6900XTX rumours with a card being held for the inevitable TI launch. We'll see

I personally doubt that AMD will launch an updated version of a top-end card that is already only being released in December, that would make no sense. The 3080 Ti 20GB would be designed to compete with the 6900XT (and to some extent even the lower 6800XT) and AMD are under no pressure to do anything to counter Nvidia at this time. They have already done the important legwork by even getting to the point of having cards that compete on a level playing field, and possibly better in some areas (and worse in others, like RT) with the best Nvidia have to offer.

He edited his post. Your on his block list
I can mediate if you want hehehe?

I fully support anyone using the ignore list to filter out anyone's posts (including mine, of course) that for whatever reason they feel aren't worth reading. It's the forums best feature and more people should take advantage of it.

 

[Mercutio]

I personally doubt that AMD will launch an updated version of a top-end card that is already only being released in December, that would make no sense. The 3080 Ti 20GB would be designed to compete with the 6900XT (and to some extent even the lower 6800XT) and AMD are under no pressure to do anything to counter Nvidia at this time. They have already done the important legwork by even getting to the point of having cards that compete on a level playing field, and possibly better in some areas (and worse in others, like RT) with the best Nvidia have to offer.

Let do some some post analysis.

"Nvidia are launching this because they must know about AMD's stock levels"
"I personally doubt AMD are launching another card so soon that would beat the obviously superior nvidia"

Meanwhile it's FIIIIIIINE if nvidia schedule another release days after their card goes out as a paper launch and we can all get excited about possible Nvidia launches but AMD ones are obviously false?

Ok

 

[Richdog]

Let do some some post analysis.

"Nvidia are launching this because they must know about AMD's stock levels"
"I personally doubt AMD are launching another card so soon that would beat the obviously superior nvidia"

Meanwhile it's FIIIIIIINE if nvidia schedule another release days after their card goes out as a paper launch and we can all get excited about possible Nvidia launches but AMD ones are obviously false?

Ok

If you could please write a post that makes sense that would be appreciated, because that's not what I wrote or implied at all.

 

[Shaz12]

There was at some point some 6900XTX rumours with a card being held for the inevitable TI launch. We'll see

The difference between a 3080 and a 3090 and a 6800 XT and 6900 XT at 1440p is around 10%. What is the point of launching so many SKUs in this price range when the 3080/6800XT when overclocked easily beat these halo variants.

 

[Mercutio]

The difference between a 3080 and a 3090 and a 6800 XT and 6900 XT at 1440p is around 10%. What is the point of launching so many SKUs in this price range when the 3080/6800XT when overclocked easily beat these halo variants.

It was mentioned somewhere (probably of dubious nature like WCCF) that there was a "bigger one". I remember that and 6900XTX being mentioned somewhere anyway. Seemed to be specifically to counter the "ours is bigger" mentality at nvidia.

Nvidia have scrambled their "bigger card" response (which... seems to be fine..?) . I definitely, at some point, saw something on a bigger card from AMD (which seems to be completely unreasonable..? ).

 

[Shaz12]

It was mentioned somewhere (probably of dubious nature like WCCF) that there was a "bigger one". I remember that and 6900XTX being mentioned somewhere anyway. Seemed to be specifically to counter the "ours is bigger" mentality at nvidia.

Nvidia have scrambled their "bigger card" response (which... seems to be fine..?) . I definitely, at some point, saw something on a bigger card from AMD (which seems to be completely unreasonable..? ).

While it could happen, I just find it to be a pointless move. If AMD is building a bigger GPU, it should blow away the 6800 XT like the 2080 Ti did with the 2080 (+30% performance). We are talking minor overclocked performance in this case.

 

[Mercutio]

While it could happen, I just find it to be a pointless move. If AMD is building a bigger GPU, it should blow away the 6800 XT like the 2080 Ti did with the 2080 (+30% performance). We are talking minor overclocked performance in this case.

Eh, mindshare

 

[Jacky60]

There was at some point some 6900XTX rumours with a card being held for the inevitable TI launch. We'll see

Here's hoping, the 6800XT overclocked to 2.5GHZ seems to compete very well with the 3090. Pretty sure AMD are going demolish Nvidia's offerings very soon. 3090 performance at £999 isn't going to look that appealing if you can get it for £650 with a 6800XT. I hope this turns out to be correct as then Nvidia will make a herculean effort to release something faster than the 3080 at around the same price. PC Gaming will start returning to a more normalised price structure soon if the competition heats up.

 

[Mercutio]

Here's hoping, the 6800XT overclocked to 2.5GHZ seems to compete very well with the 3090. Pretty sure AMD are going demolish Nvidia's offerings very soon. 3090 performance at £999 isn't going to look that appealing if you can get it for £650 with a 6800XT. I hope this turns out to be correct as then Nvidia will make a herculean effort to release something faster than the 3080 at around the same price. PC Gaming will start returning to a more normalised price structure soon if the competition heats up.

Exactly this.

We're talking in a "nvidia to release a 3080ti in answer to AMD's 6900XT while the 3080 and 3090 are still barely paper launched" thread and replies pointing out AMD might have had a card waiting for the inevitable response get the "I DoNt SeE tHe PoInT iN aNoThEr CaRd From AMD" replies the instant it's suggested.

 

[Purgatory]

Here's hoping, the 6800XT overclocked to 2.5GHZ seems to compete very well with the 3090. Pretty sure AMD are going demolish Nvidia's offerings very soon. 3090 performance at £999 isn't going to look that appealing if you can get it for £650 with a 6800XT. I hope this turns out to be correct as then Nvidia will make a herculean effort to release something faster than the 3080 at around the same price. PC Gaming will start returning to a more normalised price structure soon if the competition heats up.

Reality check time, do you honestly believe a card that will sell for £600-£650 AMD 6800XT (MSRP) (But will really sell at gouged rates) will beat a card that is now costing to buy over 3 times the price ? Come on wake up. It's not going to happen, lets all have a moment of reality. These companies are not stupid that sell hardware. Clearly NVIDIA knew what AMD was up to and that's why you have a £650msrp 3080 that again is selling up to £950 models and starting at £750 at stores if you can grab one at that price because most are really £800 to start.

We will see anyways when the real benchmarks come out and the reality behind all the new cards and I'm looking forward to it and hope AMD do well and the cards don't get massively gouged or a lot of pc gamers will give up and end up on PS5 and XBone series X or S.

Also the 3080ti rumors are just that until we get a confirmation from NVIDIA.

 

[roy_g_biv]

It was mentioned somewhere (probably of dubious nature like WCCF) that there was a "bigger one". I remember that and 6900XTX being mentioned somewhere anyway. Seemed to be specifically to counter the "ours is bigger" mentality at nvidia.

Nvidia have scrambled their "bigger card" response (which... seems to be fine..?) . I definitely, at some point, saw something on a bigger card from AMD (which seems to be completely unreasonable..? ).

See I heardthe 6900xt wasn't even in their plans, but they were able to push the 6800xt slightly further with binning. Hence why the Ryzen 5000 launch teaser had the midrange card instead of the highest one

 

[Jacky60]

Reality check time, do you honestly believe a card that will sell for £600-£650 AMD 6800XT (MSRP) (But will really sell at gouged rates) will beat a card that is now costing to buy over 3 times the price ? Come on wake up. It's not going to happen, lets all have a moment of reality. These companies are not stupid that sell hardware. Clearly NVIDIA knew what AMD was up to and that's why you have a £650msrp 3080 that again is selling up to £950 models and starting at £750 at stores if you can grab one at that price because most are really £800 to start.

We will see anyways when the real benchmarks come out and the reality behind all the new cards and I'm looking forward to it and hope AMD do well and the cards don't get massively gouged or a lot of pc gamers will give up and end up on PS5 and XBone series X or S.

Also the 3080ti rumors are just that until we get a confirmation from NVIDIA.

https://www.techradar.com/news/over...rmance-apparently-matches-the-nvidia-rtx-3090
https://techplusgame.com/amd-radeon...eyond-2-5-ghz-achieving-rtx-3090-performance/

https://screenrant.com/radeon-rx-6800-xt-benchmarks-nvidia-rtx-3080-3090/

We will see, the price of Nvidia's highest performing card has never been in line with its performance. If the 3090 was 25% faster than the 3080 I'd agree it would be very unlikely but the performance delta between the 3080 and 3090 is so small that it's perfectly possible for a 6800XT when overclocked to make up the deficit.

 

[Mark011]

Thanks to all the 3000 series early adopters for funding Nvidia R&D by squabbling for a card in this botched launch.

8gb enough? 10gb enough? Is a 3090 future proof? etc etc etc.

Holding out for the best card with 20gb vram to really compete with AMD and the next gen consoles. The true successor to the 1080Ti.

I'm sure you'll be able to get one for Christmas 2021, in the meantime the early adopters will enjoy their brand new cards

 

[Purgatory]

https://www.techradar.com/news/over...rmance-apparently-matches-the-nvidia-rtx-3090
https://techplusgame.com/amd-radeon...eyond-2-5-ghz-achieving-rtx-3090-performance/

https://screenrant.com/radeon-rx-6800-xt-benchmarks-nvidia-rtx-3080-3090/

We will see, the price of Nvidia's highest performing card has never been in line with its performance. If the 3090 was 25% faster than the 3080 I'd agree it would be very unlikely but the performance delta between the 3080 and 3090 is so small that it's perfectly possible for a 6800XT when overclocked to make up the deficit.

Clickbait articles, we will see next week.

Take a look :- https://www.techpowerup.com/review/godfall-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/


Watch how the leads go up with new game engines and correct optimisation for the 3090, its got a lot of power under the hood that can't be used right on current engines and previous games. It even leaves the 3080 behind by 30%.

Also SAM is coming to NVIDIA drivers and they already have it working, then watch the lead go up even more and it won't be just trapped to 5000 series cpus, It will work on Intel and previous AMD CPUS too. SAM is nothing more than a PCIe specification for BAR. What AMD have not told us yet too is I bet the SAM feature they are pushing for 5000 series and 6000 GPUS will also work on 3000 series CPUs too. It's same I.O die on the 5000 series and 3000, only chiplets are different.

 

[Purgatory]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-radeon-rx-6800-xt-rog-strix-lc-spotted

So basically Over £1000+ card right there when the 3080 model ASUS GeForce RTX 3080 EKWB with only a waterblock on costs £920-950 to buy.



So I believe with the cooler that card has it will easily be £1200 for a £600 MSRP card


So reality of your 6800xt 3090 beaters will cost you £1200+ if they even are capable, so when they do a 6900XT version it will be £1500+ .. ohh wait same prices as current 3090s..if you can find them at that... ohh also don't forget the gouging to be added to them 6800XT and 6900XT versions.. so £1750 ?


Then people are expecting a 3080ti at £750 or £1000 with the rumored specs .

 

[Sc00p007]

If these rumours of the AMD cards clocking to 2500+mhz are true, I can help but think, why doesn't AMD use this headroom to potentially beat the 3090 with their 6800xt card and make the 6900xt the clear raster king. If this is due to power limit concerns, I'd have atleast thought they'd have matched nvidias power limits and gain a few percent. This few percent is huge considering we are talking 10% gains between 6800/6900 or 3080/3090.

Edit* as pointed out above, this could be due to temps and you really need to put a block on for these 2500mhz clocks. That would make sense to me. Will be interesting to see, I miss those days of big gains via water but still surely they could up the pl a little and match nvidia.