NVIDIA RTX 3080Ti to launch in January 2021?

[koooowweeee]

I fully support anyone using the ignore list to filter out anyone's posts (including mine, of course) that for whatever reason they feel aren't worth reading. It's the forums best feature and more people should take advantage of it.

I have just 1 person in mine. Should have a few more really.

I thought your reply wasn't nasty or anything. Some people just don't like being questioned, weather in a nice way or not.

 

[Shaz12]

Reality check time, do you honestly believe a card that will sell for £600-£650 AMD 6800XT (MSRP) (But will really sell at gouged rates) will beat a card that is now costing to buy over 3 times the price ? Come on wake up. It's not going to happen, lets all have a moment of reality. These companies are not stupid that sell hardware. Clearly NVIDIA knew what AMD was up to and that's why you have a £650msrp 3080 that again is selling up to £950 models and starting at £750 at stores if you can grab one at that price because most are really £800 to start.

We will see anyways when the real benchmarks come out and the reality behind all the new cards and I'm looking forward to it and hope AMD do well and the cards don't get massively gouged or a lot of pc gamers will give up and end up on PS5 and XBone series X or S.

Also the 3080ti rumors are just that until we get a confirmation from NVIDIA.

The 3080 Ti was leaked by Kopite who has proven to be reliable in the past.

 

[kevman]

Clickbait articles, we will see next week.

Take a look :- https://www.techpowerup.com/review/godfall-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/


Watch how the leads go up with new game engines and correct optimisation for the 3090, its got a lot of power under the hood that can't be used right on current engines and previous games. It even leaves the 3080 behind by 30%.

Also SAM is coming to NVIDIA drivers and they already have it working, then watch the lead go up even more and it won't be just trapped to 5000 series cpus, It will work on Intel and previous AMD CPUS too. SAM is nothing more than a PCIe specification for BAR. What AMD have not told us yet too is I bet the SAM feature they are pushing for 5000 series and 6000 GPUS will also work on 3000 series CPUs too. It's same I.O die on the 5000 series and 3000, only chiplets are different.

Interesting results for the 3090 - maybe NV will be getting a bit of that fine wine treatment that AMD have enjoyed over the years.

 

[roy_g_biv]

If there's so much overclocking headroom, it would have been a good marketing move for them to offer a water block kit, so they could include these crazy boost clocks in their official benchmarks

Edit: in response to the AMD 2500mhz

 

[Jacky60]

So basically Over £1000+ card right there when the 3080 model ASUS GeForce RTX 3080 EKWB with only a waterblock on costs £920-950 to buy.



So I believe with the cooler that card has it will easily be £1200 for a £600 MSRP card


So reality of your 6800xt 3090 beaters will cost you £1200+ if they even are capable, so when they do a 6900XT version it will be £1500+ .. ohh wait same prices as current 3090s..if you can find them at that... ohh also don't forget the gouging to be added to them 6800XT and 6900XT versions.. so £1750 ?


Then people are expecting a 3080ti at £750 or £1000 with the rumored specs .

I think you need to lie down. Yes the prices will be insane for a while but they always settle down. You seem to be saying because Nvidia have shortages AMD also do and therefore the prices will double then a 3090 won't arrive? Or something?? Either way exciting times and value can only get better.

 

[Purgatory]

I think you need to lie down. Yes the prices will be insane for a while but they always settle down. You seem to be saying because Nvidia have shortages AMD also do and therefore the prices will double then a 3090 won't arrive? Or something?? Either way exciting times and value can only get better.

Like the 2080 Ti prices you mean ? They are just as high now as they came out and higher in some cases, this is with the 3000 series now out.

New world mate we are in and I'm also sick of the prices, but expecting AMD to be your savior or white knight with pricing will not happen, look at the pricing for the 5000 series cpus as an example, minute they had a lead they increased prices.

I'm not arguing with you mate just sadly stating reality of what is happening right now and happened only a couple of years back. Prices are shocking and so far will remain that way and with covid people stuck at home they are spending on home entertainment gear more than ever.

 

[Jacky60]

2080ti had an MSRP of £999 and I've seen them (other than the ludicrously overpriced STRIX for example) for less than £1000. I for one am not going to roll over, throw my arms in the air and accept the
'new World' you refer to. In January there will be plenty of 3080s and 6800XTs to be had at £650. I've seen this enough times before to know that's how it works. You said no one was going to get 3090 performance for £650 and referred to gouging etc. I said I believed it was entirely plausible to have that performance for £650 with a 6800XT. I'm not here to argue current availability I have seen members with photos of their new 3080 FE from Nvidia for £650. An overclocked 3080 comes close to a 3090 and a 6800XT is reputed to overclock very well. You said as an article of faith, this was impossible. I'm saying it's not. And incidentally AMD will be my saviour! Just you wait.

 

[Purgatory]

I think you need to lie down. Yes the prices will be insane for a while but they always settle down. You seem to be saying because Nvidia have shortages AMD also do and therefore the prices will double then a 3090 won't arrive? Or something?? Either way exciting times and value can only get better.

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-radeon-rx-6800-xt-tuf-and-rog-strix-lc-listed-for-preorder-in-uk

The pricing of these cards is as follows:

• ASUS Radeon RX 6800 XT ROG STRIX LC: 764 GBP (917 GBP with VAT)
• ASUS Radeon RX 6800 XT TUF GAMING OC: 676 GBP (811 GBP with VAT)
• ASUS Radeon RX 6800 TUF Gaming OC: 588 GBP (705 GBP with VAT)
• ASUS Radeon RX 6800 ROG STRIX OC: 605 GBP (726 GBP with VAT)

Update: Sapphire models including NITRO+ SE and non-SE:

• SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 6800 XT NITRO+ OC SE: 654 GBP (785 with VAT)
• SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 6800 XT NITRO+ OC : 635 GBP (762 with VAT)
• SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 6800 NITRO+ OC : 555 GBP (666 with VAT)

Those custom graphics cards from ASUS have already been shown earlier (pictures attached below). Only the RX 6800 XT is currently confirmed to feature the AIO-cooler design (the ROG STRIX LC series), with no word on 6800 non-XT and 6900 XT (which launches in December).

 

[roy_g_biv]

SNIP

That's the thing that's got me worried with this product page embargo, will they just be listed at the 'scalper' price straight away, without even the Nvidia launches' few seconds of RRP?

 

[Shaz12]

That's the thing that's got me worried with this product page embargo, will they just be listed at the 'scalper' price straight away, without even the Nvidia launches' few seconds of RRP?

It wasn't even a few seconds of RRP. On NVIDIA's site, the 'Add to card' button didn't even show at launch. It went straight from Notify me to Out of stock and before you know it, Ebay was flooded with scalped cards.

 

[Tiny_D]

Wow, you seem to turn overly defensive and insecure the moment anyone questions anything you write, which I did in a most reasonable manner. This usually means what that person is writing is unsubstantiated guff, so thanks for confirming my initial impressions.

Gotta hand that one to you, well done sir bravo! pmsl I did laugh.

 

[Tiny_D]

If these rumours of the AMD cards clocking to 2500+mhz are true, I can help but think, why doesn't AMD use this headroom to potentially beat the 3090 with their 6800xt card and make the 6900xt the clear raster king. If this is due to power limit concerns, I'd have atleast thought they'd have matched nvidias power limits and gain a few percent. This few percent is huge considering we are talking 10% gains between 6800/6900 or 3080/3090.

Edit* as pointed out above, this could be due to temps and you really need to put a block on for these 2500mhz clocks. That would make sense to me. Will be interesting to see, I miss those days of big gains via water but still surely they could up the pl a little and match nvidia.

Is it possible AMD left room in the tank for the inevitable 3080Ti counter punch? If we start seeing AIB's with monster coolers for around a grand that can have higher wattage and clocks due to lower thermals/better cooling?
Nvidia counter with the 3080Ti is the ONLY response they have, what if really good cooling with higher wattage AIB's come online Q1 that clock really well?? 6900XTX?

RDNA 3 is slated for 2022? I mean I dont think AMD care to beat the 3080Ti this generation? I guess they could drop RDNA 3 Q4 but why would they?
AMD look like they are taking the approach with the GPU's the same as the CPU's, slowly slowly catchy monkey?

 

[Shaz12]

Is it possible AMD left room in the tank for the inevitable 3080Ti counter punch? If we start seeing AIB's with monster coolers for around a grand that can have higher wattage and clocks due to lower thermals/better cooling?
Nvidia counter with the 3080Ti is the ONLY response they have, what if really good cooling with higher wattage AIB's come online Q1 that clock really well?? 6900XTX?

RDNA 3 is slated for 2022? I mean I dont think AMD care to beat the 3080Ti this generation? I guess they could drop RDNA 3 Q4 but why would they?
AMD look like they are taking the approach with the GPU's the same as the CPU's, slowly slowly catchy monkey?

According to Steve from Hardware Unboxed, the 6800 XT is beating the 3090 at 1080p and 1440p, let alone the 6900 XT. At this point even a 3080 Ti wouldn't fix NVIDIA's issues here unless they price it very aggressively.

 

[Tiny_D]

According to Steve from Hardware Unboxed, the 6800 XT is beating the 3090 at 1080p and 1440p, let alone the 6900 XT. At this point even a 3080 Ti wouldn't fix NVIDIA's issues here unless they price it very aggressively.

While I tend to agree with you and that source quoted, don't kick the hornets nest like that there will be a slew of Nvidia die hards coming in with crazy pre list prices, and cries of stock shortages and reminding us that ray tracing is still not an AMD thing (even though its not really an Nvidia thing yet either ).

Like when the T rex runs in Jurassic Park style "Ian ! Just don't move!"

 

[Jacky60]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-radeon-rx-6800-xt-tuf-and-rog-strix-lc-listed-for-preorder-in-uk

The pricing of these cards is as follows:

• ASUS Radeon RX 6800 XT ROG STRIX LC: 764 GBP (917 GBP with VAT)
• ASUS Radeon RX 6800 XT TUF GAMING OC: 676 GBP (811 GBP with VAT)
• ASUS Radeon RX 6800 TUF Gaming OC: 588 GBP (705 GBP with VAT)
• ASUS Radeon RX 6800 ROG STRIX OC: 605 GBP (726 GBP with VAT)

Update: Sapphire models including NITRO+ SE and non-SE:

• SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 6800 XT NITRO+ OC SE: 654 GBP (785 with VAT)
• SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 6800 XT NITRO+ OC : 635 GBP (762 with VAT)
• SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 6800 NITRO+ OC : 555 GBP (666 with VAT)

Those custom graphics cards from ASUS have already been shown earlier (pictures attached below). Only the RX 6800 XT is currently confirmed to feature the AIO-cooler design (the ROG STRIX LC series), with no word on 6800 non-XT and 6900 XT (which launches in December).

Lets wait and see where they land and then fast forward to 15th Jan 2021. 3080FE inc VAT is £650 on Nvidia's website and I'm led to believe repeatedly pressing F5 may or may not help. I can give examples of the Nvidia 6800XT costing £160 but that doesn't mean its a good card or good value.
The bottom line is the 3090 is dead in the water and the 3080TI will be at £999 unless Nvidia can deliver a rapid 'no hold's barred' boost to its performance vis a vis the 3090.

 

[Sc00p007]

Is it possible AMD left room in the tank for the inevitable 3080Ti counter punch? If we start seeing AIB's with monster coolers for around a grand that can have higher wattage and clocks due to lower thermals/better cooling?
Nvidia counter with the 3080Ti is the ONLY response they have, what if really good cooling with higher wattage AIB's come online Q1 that clock really well?? 6900XTX?

RDNA 3 is slated for 2022? I mean I dont think AMD care to beat the 3080Ti this generation? I guess they could drop RDNA 3 Q4 but why would they?
AMD look like they are taking the approach with the GPU's the same as the CPU's, slowly slowly catchy monkey?

The thing is I don't think nvidia can really counter until later in the year cycle, 3090 is pretty much it for now. So I was thinking, why not make a statement when nvidia are most vulnerable, not just a few percent. Then again maybe the benchmarks come and they already are making a statement

 

[Shaz12]

The thing is I don't think nvidia can really counter until later in the year cycle, 3090 is pretty much it for now. So I was thinking, why not make a statement when nvidia are most vulnerable, not just a few percent. Then again maybe the benchmarks come and they already are making a statement

But the 3080 Ti is rumoured to launch in Jan so the counter is coming just 2 months from now.

 

[Tiny_D]

But the 3080 Ti is rumoured to launch in Jan so the counter is coming just 2 months from now.

+1

I heard Jensen got insecure a woman had a larger spatula on launch.

 

[Sc00p007]

But the 3080 Ti is rumoured to launch in Jan so the counter is coming just 2 months from now.

I originally made the point, that if the AMD cards are clocking 2500+, then why not use this headroom to flay out beat 3090 at rasterisation. 3080ti has to be either same speed as 3090 or couple percent slower.

 

[g67575]

Probably the logical thing to do for Nvidia is to wait for AMD to have sufficient stock levels of RX 6000 series GPUs to meet demand, before releasing a more competitive RTX 3080 type product. Perhaps January-Feb 2021 could be possible? Or, maybe there won't ever be enough AMD stock, then NV doesn't need to damage their RTX 3090 GPUs sales / turnover...

Perhaps 7nm NV GPUs (rumours) would coincide with the RTX 3080 TI.

I can see the RTX 3090 being phased out and replaced by a superior 7nm version, with a different name.