NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

[Brumboy]

Mate any card can go wrong. 5070ti is not cheap either.

I'll try and find out when the Zotac's will be coming in stock and assess from there then!

 

[ProStreet]

I'll try and find out when the Zotac's will be coming in stock and assess from there then!

I just think we need to take a stand against these manufacturers. Don't buy their products and they'll have to change their ways. I know it's impossible given the situation.

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

Yep. All msi graphics cards to poland.

The best is zotac. 5 year warranty. UK returns in bracknell and 7 day turnaround. Going to have to try and get one. Who would have thought that the cheaper cards had best service?

Guess i’ll be paying close attention to Zotac cards moving forwards then. Can drive and harass them in person if things go pear shaped

 

[ProStreet]

Guess i’ll be paying close attention to Zotac cards moving forwards then. Can drive and harass them in person if things go pear shaped

Exactly! Not flying to Poland any time soon!

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

Yeah ok, I'm not going to take that risk on a £2500 item. Especially with the retailer I've bought from, who threatened to call the police for not leaving the store when I tried to return a phone within 4 months of buying that was faulty. They insisted I return to manufacturer. I was extremely polite by the way.

Buy on a credit card and you have double protection.

 

[ProStreet]

Buy on a credit card and you have double protection.

You can't really pick and choose with these cards. They go in seconds, but yes next purchase will be on a CC.

 

[DavieJG]

I just think we need to take a stand against these manufacturers. Don't buy their products and they'll have to change their ways. I know it's impossible given the situation.

Is it a 100% rma disaster fest for them? Literally no one to speak for the defence?

 

[mrk]

I just checked mine again using a thermal camera:

Looks like I am all safe ~2 years on

Yep. All msi graphics cards to poland.

The best is zotac. 5 year warranty. UK returns in bracknell and 7 day turnaround. Going to have to try and get one. Who would have thought that the cheaper cards had best service?

Just remember to register to get the extra 2 years warranty!

 

[ProStreet]

Is it a 100% rma disaster fest for them? Literally no one to speak for the defence?

Haven't heard one positive thing, but who puts positive experiences online

 

[scubes]

how's everyone's card have you the missing rops? black screens etc watching video's on YouTube must be a disaster for the owners..

 

[Jasseh]

Yep. All msi graphics cards to poland.

The best is zotac. 5 year warranty. UK returns in bracknell and 7 day turnaround. Going to have to try and get one. Who would have thought that the cheaper cards had best service?

Can't register mine for the extra 2 year warranty yet, their site isn't working right now

 

[HRL]

I feel physically sick holding onto this 5090 msi. Have 1 week to decide before it goes back for a refund.

Well if it’s any consolation I’ve never had to RMA a single GPU.

Still trying to get hold of a 5090FE but I can be patient. I wouldn’t worry too much TBH, be grateful you’ve managed to get one so early into the launch, and with all its ROP’s.

 

[Nitefly]

Haven't heard one positive thing, but who puts positive experiences online

For what it’s worth, from searching Reddit, I’ve seen that somebody has encountered MSI problems from a UK purchase:

Long story short, a 4080 gaming x trio that I have has developed a fault and MSI refuses any sort of warranty that doesn’t come directly via the distributor.

That to me sounds like the retailer will handle the shipping back to MSI, if that’s what they still actually do.

Policies on this may change frequently, but I’d expect procedures to have been ironed out now compared to imminently post-Brexit.

 

[TNA]

The only thing bottlenecking you is your signature

 

[WARburton]

lol just seen the 5090 and 5070ti are missing ROPs

 

[mahius]

What kind of Animal doesnt use Dark mode?

Wait... there's a dark mode?!?

Well

- you have to return it to Poland, which means customs forms and risk of it getting lost.

- many people experienced 6 month turnarounds and in the end they either got a card that didn't work or was in worse condition than they sent it in

- they fob you off to the retailer and won't deal with you directly, but retailers don't have a legal obligation to help out with the manufacturer warranty.

Not worth it

It sounds like MSI RMA has gone downhill over the past decade or so. I've had a couple MSI GPUs in my time, the first was an AMD HD6770 which had issues when I first bought it. The place I bought it from (maybe it was OCUK, it was so long ago I can't remember), got it sorted after I returned it (they just sent me a new card after sending back the old one). My MSI GTX 970 still runs though, never had to RMA or anything. I did have issues with an MSI motherboard laptop about a decade ago. It died towards the end of the 3 year warranty and they did bugger all as their exuse was 'they don't have the parts, they don't make that model anymore'. Took it to a few different places, remained dead. I've sworn off laptops ever since

I also find it hard to believe that the 5000 series gets worse with each week. Saw yesterday that there's another issue with a 5090 on fire, but not from the 12VHPWR this time!

 

[DavieJG]

Haven't heard one positive thing, but who puts positive experiences online

I checked the other place and everything is handled through the retailer for the 36 month warranty. That's pretty much the standard you'd expect from any of these AIBs

 

[ProStreet]

I checked the other place and everything is handled through the retailer for the 36 month warranty. That's pretty much the standard you'd expect from any of these AIBs

Not from the place I bought from, they fob you off to the manufacturer or call the police lol

 

[WARburton]

Looks like I am all safe ~2 years on

whats the temp on the top VRM heatsink it looks to be the hottest think in there

 

[DeathStorm]

At risk of going off topic, it's about markets and ease of distribution. 27 countries is a FAR bigger market than the UK and that was the point he was making. Smaller countries like the Netherlands and Luxembourg are much more lucrative than here due to their higher living standards. Add to that the reduced hassle in distribution to the 27, it's entirely feasible that we've seen less inventory coming our way.

And all of that not forgetting that while we were in the EU, we could also purchase cards from there without any hassle. Not something I would do, but plenty did.

Back on topic, those who are like 65th in a queue have a bit of an advantage over someone at say 10th. They can wait a bit to see if current launch issues get rectified, although the mere fact we're even talking about them is bizarre to say the least.

You're making a lot of assumptions, you've made it sound like selling to the entirety of the EU is easier than selling to one country, which isn't the case (think of the logistics alone) and if market size were the most important factor everyone else wouldn't be getting a sniff when compared to the USA and China.

As interesting as our personal preferences in politics are, ultimately this argument is pointless without actual statistics like a breakdown of the size of these respective markets, the number of units being allocated etc.