Really? What if you want 20-30% better performance than a 1080 Ti and 2080? The main problem with 2080 Ti is its price. It should be available for under £700.
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Nvidia rumour to be launching new GTX 11 series without ray tracing
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I based my comment on this:
Games like BF5 only really ray trace reflections, and this already has a massive impact on performance. Imagine if they were doing global illumination or even worse, full ray traced rendering, it would cripple even the 2080Ti.
So ppl buy 2080ti and it under performs when proper ray tracing games release, not to mention the rumours of nvidia releasing a 1180ti for a much cheaper price, if it does happen then ray tracing is dead, this will make the 2080ti pointless right? maybe nvidia made bad business decisions with the 20 series, and yes the price is absurd, this is titan prices, and the RTX titan will probably be 2.5k
I will stick with what I said. Now if you was calling the 2080 pointless and sighting that article I would understand, as it is essentially give or take a 1080 Ti with RTX tacked on. But even if you remove RTX from a 2080 Ti or never use it, it is still a card that is close to 30% better than a 1080 Ti. Remember, just because RTX is available, does not mean you have to use it, so it won’t cripple anything.
By the way, the RTX Titan is already out, people here like Kaapstad already have 2. They cost £2399 each! Oh and I am not defending the 2080 Ti, the card is way over priced. Nvidia are just milking people right now and recouping some r&d money.
Ray tracing is years away, it won’t go mainstream the way you are talking about for another decade probably as the performance is not there, but it has to start somewhere. Right now it is just reflections in BF5, in a few years it may be global illumination etc. At least now the hardware is there for devs to start to experiment. But until Nvidia get back to reality and lower their profit margins to get RTX in a lot more people’s hands, we won’t be seeing many games supporting it unless Nvidia pays the devs to do so.
I skipped the 2000 series as I know there will be a handful of games or benchmarks supporting it before the 3000 series comes out which will have no less than double the RTX performance imo.
If I had to take a guess, we won’t start seeing mainstream support for ray tracing until something like a PS6 comes out. The very earliest will be with something like a PS5 Pro in about 4-5 years time. Not saying they will be fully ray traced games by the way.. No one really knows when that will come, if they make big strides in software it may come earlier than we think. At 30 fps anyways
Soldato
Eteknix have said GTX 1180 is ready for launch. Performance is on par with a GTX 1080Ti / RTX 2080
https://www.eteknix.com/nvidia-gtx-1180-graphics-card-appears-benchmarking-site
edit: doh videocardz link already given a few days ago
https://www.eteknix.com/nvidia-gtx-1180-graphics-card-appears-benchmarking-site
edit: doh videocardz link already given a few days ago
I still find this hard to believe. If true Nvidia will be doing a lot of damage to RTX.
It is more baseless rumours being recirculated. It is so blatantly obvious there will be 1180 to compete with a 2080. Nvidia would throw billions of R&D away and their vision of the future of GPUs within months of Turing 's release.
Even if Nvidia did give up on RTX, it would take a couple of years for a non-RTX product to come through the pipeline.
Soldato
Forum poster uses words that do not exist in an article which parrots an original article published by a website of dubious credibility displaying easily-faked screens shots.
Gotta love the internet.
If any card in a GTX 11 series has raster performance greater than the GTX 1060 I will eat my hat.
Soldato
Somebody wake me up if they release a 1180Ti at £700 or less.
Man of Honour
I think you are going to get a lot of sleep.
I can not see NVidia releasing a card with performance to match a 2080 but without RTX, this would lose momentum for Ray Tracing which is where they want the market to go.
Ray tracing momentum is going to be minimal until consoles can do it, that's when it can possibly take off, and that's a good few years off yet.
Soldato
I have a 1080Ti at the moment which cost me £700 at release. I refuse to pay £1100 to upgrade to the RTX 2080Ti, paying £400 more for a half baked answer to a question nobody asked.
Give me RTX 2080Ti performance without the RT ***** for £700 + inflation and nVidia have themselves a deal.
Give me RTX 2080Ti performance without the RT ***** for £700 + inflation and nVidia have themselves a deal.
Man of Honour
So it looks like expensive high end RTX cards and cheap low end non RTX cards for the next few years.
NVidia have really screwed up with RTX, they should have launched it on a node shrink where the additional cost could have been absorbed.
so a GTX 1180, Performance is on par with a GTX 1080Ti / RTX 2080
where does that leave the 2080ti then, and if they release a 1180ti ? im not getting this at all.
This is likely fake news. It has not been confirmed. Don’t waste time even thinking about it.
Likely fake news?
What about the GTX1160? direct competition with the RTX2060 and yet there are very strong rumours of its immenent arrival:
"As for the GTX 1160, only two leaks substantiate its existence. The first is from leaker BullsLab Jay, who told VideoCardz that that the 1160 would be based on the TU116 core rather than the TU106 that the 2060 is meant to use. The second is basically a hard confirmation from a Lenovo product page, that lists the 1160 as coming in a new laptop model in 3GB and 6GB configurations. Both leaks agree that the card will be launched somewhere between January 8 (the first day of CES) and the 15th of that same month."
https://www.techspot.com/news/78044-rtx-2060-vs-gtx-1160-ten-new-leaks.html
So if they can make a card to compete against one which has only just launched then why wouldn't they make other higher end cards?
What about the GTX1160? direct competition with the RTX2060 and yet there are very strong rumours of its immenent arrival:
"As for the GTX 1160, only two leaks substantiate its existence. The first is from leaker BullsLab Jay, who told VideoCardz that that the 1160 would be based on the TU116 core rather than the TU106 that the 2060 is meant to use. The second is basically a hard confirmation from a Lenovo product page, that lists the 1160 as coming in a new laptop model in 3GB and 6GB configurations. Both leaks agree that the card will be launched somewhere between January 8 (the first day of CES) and the 15th of that same month."
https://www.techspot.com/news/78044-rtx-2060-vs-gtx-1160-ten-new-leaks.html
So if they can make a card to compete against one which has only just launched then why wouldn't they make other higher end cards?