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Nvidia to support Freesync?

Thanks gerard. I was just thinking that if you wanted to achieve 165Hz you would effectively need 165FPS which is probably hard to achieve?

Do you perhaps set it to a lower refresh?

And thanks for that list. Ill take a look.

Honestly speaking, Im really happy with my AOC panel and cannot be arsed to faf around with returning etc.

With the current panel lottery being what it is at the moment, I think you'd be mad to anyway.

Plus Gsync has a wider range does it not?

My X34 has 30-100Hz for example.
 
What are people finding is the best frame rate limiter to keep within the freesync range? I've tried EVGA Precision X, but (at least the version on steam) it doesn't seem to have been updated in quite some time.
 
What are people finding is the best frame rate limiter to keep within the freesync range? I've tried EVGA Precision X, but (at least the version on steam) it doesn't seem to have been updated in quite some time.

Best frame limiter is Afterburner.
 
Ouch.... really? So Freesync works just as well as Gsync for Gsync cards?

I currently have the AOC 35" AG352UCG6.... wonder if I should return it....

(but I do love this monitor so much!)

G-Sync module still gives:

- Superior low framerate experience*
- Better motion clarity via adaptive overdrive
- Better compatibility with games that use non-exclusive fullscreen modes (currently broken by MS on certain Windows 10 configurations).

Whether you'll notice or if these things are important to you is another matter. The coming updates to DP and HDMI standards will have better support for some of these things.



* Ignore Linus's graphs that are often posted around as this was done with early drivers and incorrectly setup as the tech was new and he didn't fully understand it as is mentioned in the comments and proved elsewhere i.e. Battlenonsense. I'm also not sure if nVidia's implementation for adaptive sync currently works as well as AMD's implementation of LFC on the broad range of FS monitors.
 
G-Sync module still gives:

- Superior low framerate experience*
- Better motion clarity via adaptive overdrive
- Better compatibility with games that use non-exclusive fullscreen modes (currently broken by MS on certain Windows 10 configurations).

Whether you'll notice or if these things are important to you is another matter. The coming updates to DP and HDMI standards will have better support for some of these things.



* Ignore Linus's graphs that are often posted around as this was done with early drivers and incorrectly setup as the tech was new and he didn't fully understand it as is mentioned in the comments and proved elsewhere i.e. Battlenonsense. I'm also not sure if nVidia's implementation for adaptive sync currently works as well as AMD's implementation of LFC on the broad range of FS monitors.

- Superior low framerate experience* -
Still debatable with latest Freesync LFC monitors. At what point is enough? 30fps, 20fps? 40fps? TBH if you a PC gamer and going below 60fps you really doing it wrong.
- Better motion clarity via adaptive overdrive -
Am sure this is very much depending on the monitor rather than Freesync or Gsync.
- Better compatibility with games that use non-exclusive fullscreen modes (currently broken by MS on certain Windows 10 configurations). -
AMD has had Freesync working now on None- Full screen application for a long time now.
 
- Superior low framerate experience* -
Still debatable with latest Freesync LFC monitors. At what point is enough? 30fps, 20fps? 40fps? TBH if you a PC gamer and going below 60fps you really doing it wrong.
- Better motion clarity via adaptive overdrive -
Am sure this is very much depending on the monitor rather than Freesync or Gsync.
- Better compatibility with games that use non-exclusive fullscreen modes (currently broken by MS on certain Windows 10 configurations). -
AMD has had Freesync working now on None- Full screen application for a long time now.

Agreed if you are dropping into the range where LFC is important you probably aren't getting a great experience overall - for those trying to push things like 4K with GPU hardware struggling to make 60 FPS it could be relevant.

Individual monitors will have some implications for motion clarity but a properly supported G-Sync implementation will have benefits for motion clarity - the scaler alone will more frequently under/overshoot.

AMD started working on windowed modes, etc. awhile back but seems to have pretty much abandoned any further support on it leaving it a less complete solution than the already far from ideal solution that G-Sync uses - due to the mess Microsoft have made of desktop composition over the years it is very hard to support properly with the module providing extra buffers never mind without having that functionality there.
 
With the current panel lottery being what it is at the moment, I think you'd be mad to anyway.

Plus Gsync has a wider range does it not?

My X34 has 30-100Hz for example.

You can't put it down to G-sync having a wider range than Freesync as it doesn't, The width is tied to how well the monitor supports adaptive sync not the actual tech using it.
 
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Agreed if you are dropping into the range where LFC is important you probably aren't getting a great experience overall - for those trying to push things like 4K with GPU hardware struggling to make 60 FPS it could be relevant.

Individual monitors will have some implications for motion clarity but a properly supported G-Sync implementation will have benefits for motion clarity - the scaler alone will more frequently under/overshoot.

AMD started working on windowed modes, etc. awhile back but seems to have pretty much abandoned any further support on it leaving it a less complete solution than the already far from ideal solution that G-Sync uses - due to the mess Microsoft have made of desktop composition over the years it is very hard to support properly with the module providing extra buffers never mind without having that functionality there.

AMD released a driver for Freesync to support borderless mode. That was release like two years ago now. It works well, I play a few games in Borderless mode.

16.12.2 driver
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AMD released a driver for Freesync to support borderless mode. That was release like two years ago now. It works well, I play a few games in Borderless mode.

Which I alluded to in my post - but it isn't as complete a solution as the G-Sync one - doesn't work with as wide range of games or configurations though it works well for some games. The problem is the way MS do desktop composition makes it very hard unless you go to the kind of length nVidia did with hacking DX11 for instance.
 
Well from someone who has used and owned both G-sync monitor and Freesync Monitor.
I sold G-sync monitor and I am using Freesync Monitor with GTX 1080Ti.I made my choice ,Freesync won. I can just see the local trolls going crazy.I could even name them all but I will not.

It really comes down to the individual,hell the guy I sold my 165 Hz G-sync monitor ,thought I was nuts to pick Freesync monitor.

As Rroff said
Whether you'll notice or if these things are important to you is another matter. The coming updates to DP and HDMI standards will have better support for some of these things.
 
Yep and D.P is saying Jensen is right :p:D


He was right. Not going through that video but I bet some of the monitors don;t have the required frequency range, LFC or enable adaptive sync automatically, thus failing Nvidia's criteria
 
He was right. Not going through that video but I bet some of the monitors don;t have the required frequency range, LFC or enable adaptive sync automatically, thus failing Nvidia's criteria
he wasn't talking about the criteria, you are changing his wording to suit your argument. he made a blanket statement and said freesync monitors dont work, not even on amd cards.(he is wrong - they all work, however a few of them may have issues.) his quote is here:

We never competed,” Huang said of upcoming FreeSync support. “(FreeSync) was never proven to work. As you know, we invented the area of adaptive sync. The truth is most of the FreeSync monitors do not work. They do not even work with AMD’s graphics cards.”

how many times are you going to keep changing the wording to suit your agenda.
 
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