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Oblivion Peformance So Far

Well, a quick load of FRAPS and the latest save I have tells me that I am not getting to bad FPS.

Venice @ 2.75GHZ, 1GB ram, and finally x800XT at 552/550 and I get 40 or so FPS @ 1280x1024...

How much difference do people find that HDR makes in the game?
 
Anybody else get this, i'll be in the forest bodging along at 30fps then along comes a wolf/rat and as soon as the animal comes into screen your fps goes into chucka vision, i'm talking 4-5fps, even after you've killed the wolf/rat looking at it makes your fps stupidly low (4-5fps) yet as soon as you look the other way or step over it your fps jumps right back up again :( , it does,unt do it with all animals just the odd one now and again.


Edit - Right, I,ve been up all night running around the net reading post after post and trying tweak after tweak to try and get this game to run better, my advice, don't bother, nothing i,ve tried works and believe me I,ve nearly tried them all, I have tho in my travels came across some intresting posts that seem to indicate that no matter what system you own it's just not gonna fair too well with this game, let me show you these posts I found, make note of there system specs,

It seems no matter what system they have (me included) changing the res just has completly no effect on fps what so ever, p4 3.2 understandable, but some of these systems are AMD 4400+ ?

P4 3.2Ghz
1GB RAM
Nvidia Geforce Go 7800GTX

The settings:
1024x768
Max Detail
HDR

I had expected my performance to great. Turns out I had a hard time keeping my frames per second in the 15-20 range. I figure it is a bug, because I didn't fix that problem. I began to experiment with different tweaks found on this page. They did some help, but I still had some bad performance.

But it was not bad. Believe it or not, I am fine with 10fps in a city. It bothers me slightly, but I can play it quite easily. Anyways, it performs better in other places.

I tried lower resolutions, like 640x480. It had a performance boost, but only to the 25-35 range.

Then just now, I tried, believe it or not, 1920x1200.

The results: I got the same framerate I had with 1024x768, if not slightly better. Now this is not necesarily good, because it is still 15fps in cities, but I am fine with that. Now I have little need for AA, so HDR is great.

PLEASE TRY THIS:
But I know that some 7800GTX users have had trouble with performance. If you do, please set your resolution to the highest your screen supports, and report what the framerates were for it, compared to your normal resolution.

Possible Conclusion for my problem: Poor optimization for the 7800GTX.
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check these screen shots in the qoute below, 640x480 vs 1600x1200 and no FPS DIFFERENCE, and thats on a AMD 3700+ clocked at 2.4...............nahhhhhhhhhhhh that ain't right.


I took these screenshots yesterday.

http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lolfps4qy.jpg

That was taken at 640x480, no AA, no AF, no HDR/bloom. Vsync off.

http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lolfps23wr.jpg

This one was taken at 1600x1200, 8x AA, 8x AF, no HDR/bloom. Vsync off. Note the framerate in the upper right corner.


The game is obviously poorly programmed.

A64 3700+ @2.4ghz
DFI Lanparty NF4 UT SLI-DR
1GB G.skill PC4400 @ 2.5/3/3/6
XFX 7800GTX
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Also check this, 1024x768 vs 1920x1200,

Ahh, you have a 7800GTX as well.

Here are benchmarks I took with Fraps:

1024x768 - 17fps average
1920x1200 - 12fps average

That is pathetic. I think it has to do with the 7800GTX
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this

I have a friend that also has a 7800gtx, and he has a 4400+ X2, he gets almost exactaly the same framerate, and experiences the exact same issue (same fps at 640x480 as 1600x1200)
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and this, both these last two with 4400+'s derserve a :eek:

Same problem here, I have a 7800GT + X2 4400. Changing resolutions does hardly anything. Yay Bethesda
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If I had to take a wild guess at whats killing the cpu's running this game then i'd have to say it's the new tweaked "Havok Game Dynamics SDK" that was implemented into the gamebyro code for oblivion,



which would explain why it runs a'hell of a lot better on the 360 as gamebyro's code takes advantage of the multithreaded hardware of the Xbox360 and that obivously did'nt port to well to pc architecture
 
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lowrider007 said:
Anybody else get this, i'll be in the forest bodging along at 30fps then along comes a wolf/rat and as soon as the animal comes into screen your fps goes into chucka vision, i'm talking 4-5fps, even after you've killed the wolf/rat looking at it makes your fps stupidly low (4-5fps) yet as soon as you look the other way or step over it your fps jumps right back up again :( , it does,unt do it with all animals just the odd one now and again.
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lol, yeah... I was on a horse being chased by 2 wolves and I was getting single digit fps. :(

X2 @ 2.7Ghz
2GB Ram
2x 7800GT @ 550/600

:/
 
Trixxy said:
lol, yeah... I was on a horse being chased by 2 wolves and I was getting single digit fps. :(

X2 @ 2.7Ghz
2GB Ram
2x 7800GT @ 550/600

:/
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WHAT :eek: , just add that to my list of quotes in my above post, single digit fps with your specs, that alone proves theres definitely something wrong this this game, anybody that say's "ooooo why is everyone complaining, no new game runs that well when it first comes out, neh neh neh, neh neh, neh neh" needs to have there face smacked with a kipper and wake up, I can't honestly see how they can get away with this, wheres the line gonna be drawn when it comes to an acceptable performance in new games releases, 60fps.....40.......30........20........10 where does it stop and why are we accepting this ?, I don't CARE what anyone says it's NEVER been this bad and it seems every new recent release seems to be worse,

also, what people don't seem to understand is it does'unt matter how poor/well the old pc games ran in the past when they was released b-cos at least in the past you could wack you resolution down and enjoy the game at a much higher rate of fps, now we can't even do that anymore b-cos we have this **cpu limitation**, cpu limitation, what a load a ****, I associate with a lot of people that have been gaming on pc's for many years, some for over 15 years and they all seem to agree that in terms of performance pc gaming is going downhill big style.
 
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lowrider007 said:
NEVER been this bad and it seems every new recent release seems to be worse,

also, what people don't seem to understand is....
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Running fine here on a 3 year old 1.8 Athlon, 1.25 gig 166 memory and 6600GT gfx card.

I was expecting to have to let the game sit on the shelf due to performance reasons. Though it may sit on the shelf for a while until its modded properly anyway.
 
lowrider007 said:
Anybody else get this, i'll be in the forest bodging along at 30fps then along comes a wolf/rat and as soon as the animal comes into screen your fps goes into chucka vision, i'm talking 4-5fps, even after you've killed the wolf/rat looking at it makes your fps stupidly low (4-5fps) yet as soon as you look the other way or step over it your fps jumps right back up again :( , it does,unt do it with all animals just the odd one now and again.


Edit - Right, I,ve been up all night running around the net reading post after post and trying tweak after tweak to try and get this game to run better, my advice, don't bother, nothing i,ve tried works and believe me I,ve nearly tried them all, I have tho in my travels came across some intresting posts that seem to indicate that no matter what system you own it's just not gonna fair too well with this game, let me show you these posts I found, make note of there system specs
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my rig,
A64 3500+/A8N-E
1GB 3200 RAM
ATI X1800XT


guess i am just lucky as the game runs pretty well for me, i have everything up to max or far except shadows as there is a weird issue with them making horses look like zebra and peoples faces looking odd so i just turned shadows off for now, shame but after playing for a few minutes i just forget about it and enjoy the game. i've switched between running with bloom and aa/af to hdr and af as the performance is a fair bit better. i get great performance indoors (stable 60fps with vsync on) drops to around 30 when out in the forests but is totally playable.
 
Trickle said:
Running fine here on a 3 year old 1.8 Athlon, 1.25 gig 166 memory and 6600GT gfx card
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:(..........................strange, in the forums at oblivions website theres a lot of people with low spec systems that seem to think that it plays fine on yet all the people with high spec systems seem to be having performance issues.

You say your system is running it fine yet this guy is down to single digits in fps with an [email protected],

I was on a horse being chased by 2 wolves and I was getting single digit fps.

X2 @ 2.7Ghz
2GB Ram
2x 7800GT @ 550/600
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lowrider007 said:
:(..........................strange, in the forums at oblivions website theres a lot of people with low spec systems that seem to think that it plays fine on yet all the people with high spec systems seem to be having performance issues.
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Or maybe it is just relative? People with high specs are used to games looking great and 60fps+. They arent.
 
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3GHz Dual Core Athlon64
2x 7800GTX 512 @1920x1280
2GB RAM

Frame rates can be very variable, the main one being the wolf fps problem, sometimes it runs fine away at 40fps, next time chronic slowdown to 15-20fps.

As megatron says, I think it's cursed with "console portitis".

Jokester
 
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Raikiri said:
Or maybe it is just relative? People with high specs are used to games looking great and 60fps+. They arent.
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I wish it was that simple, but I really believe it's not the case with this game, I almost feel like they have compilied this game in a way that it's running an emulated 360 version, I really think thats what they've done, just recompiled it to run on the pc, no optimzations, nothing, just a money spinner, as long as it worked fine,

You look at my quotes on my larger post further up, these are people with really good systems that are only pulling double figures in the fps department, thats really not right, and changing res has no effect for them, not even 4400+ systems, I,ve read hundreds of posts that tell a similar story.
 
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Rich1988 said:
Getting around 70fps indoors 40+ outdoors, all settings ultra high running at 1600 X 1200 on A64 3200+ at 2.5ghz and using a 7800gtx

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-5/1016907/Oblivion2006-03-2619-11-31-34.JPG

too big to post :p
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If not to much trouble i'd like to see a snapshot with fraps in the corner while your standing in the forest, with as you said, all settings ultra high (ingame sliders all to the right) running at 1600 X 1200, b-cos if your saying your system never drops below 40fps outside then I will be very very suprised.
 
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lowrider007 said:
If not to much trouble i'd like to see a snapshot with fraps in the corner while your standing in the forest, with as you said, all settings ultra high (ingame sliders all to the right) running at 1600 X 1200, b-cos if your saying your system never drops below 40fps outside then I will be very very suprised.
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Drops to about 28+ in the forest. that is a screenshot through fraps and for some reason it didnt have the fps in the corner ? anyone know why (dont use fraps very much),
Rich
 
Rich1988 said:
Drops to about 28+ in the forest. that is a screenshot through fraps and for some reason it didnt have the fps in the corner ? anyone know why (dont use fraps very much),
Rich
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It will be disabled in fraps settings, just use printscreen while fraps is running.
 
Jokester said:
Update:-

3GHz Dual Core Athlon64
2x 7800GTX 512 @1920x1280
2GB RAM

Frame rates can be very variable, the main one being the wolf fps problem, sometimes it runs fine away at 40fps, next time chronic slowdown to 15-20fps.

As megatron says, I think it's cursed with "console portitis".

Jokester
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Does the game get a big boost from SLI then?

Only a matter of time before sites start doing performance tests on this game I suppose, I imagine itll be used as a benchie for future |GPU reviews.
 
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