OcUK RTX4080 16GB review thread

SpellowHouse · 21 Nov 2022 at 17:20

I am not convinced at all that NVIDIA will learn. Also, I have tended to notice in the past that once a particular GPU's reputation is damaged, that's pretty much it for the life of that GPU. I think now that 4080 sales will never reach expectations even if they do reduce the price.
Anyway, I have said it before - I was going to buy a 4080, but they have pushed the price in to a very uncomfortable place for me. Had it been £800 or so then I would have bought one, but I really can't see them ever coming down that much. I have no need of anything less. Perhaps the 7900xtx will be closer to what I want but even that is really too expensive. I can think of many other things I would prefer to spend £1000 on.

Aegis · 21 Nov 2022 at 17:49

SpellowHouse said:
once a particular GPU's reputation is damaged, that's pretty much it for the life of that GPU. I think now that 4080 sales will never reach expectations even if they do reduce the price.

And the *actually* terrible card (4080 12GB/4070 Ti) is yet to be released. The 4080 16GB is badly priced but the 4070 Ti is just a stinker of a card.

Journey · 21 Nov 2022 at 18:37

I just completed a build today, the user was waiting for the 40-series, and was convinced the 4080 16GB would be a great option, but at nearly £1300 the price vs performance increase just wasn't worth it. User has gone with an RTX 3090 FE picked up for £660, boxed like new. This is where Nvidia are losing sales as well, the used market, so they aren't even clearing out old stock like they wanted.

Best bit is in 12 months the 3090 will still be worth £400-450 even if they cut the price in half for the 4080, so the user isn't wasting money and they have still had a massive upgrade from their RTX 2070, for not a huge sum of money.

Aegis · 21 Nov 2022 at 18:42

Journey said:
Best bit is in 12 months the 3090 will still be worth £400-450 even if they cut the price in half for the 4080, so the user isn't wasting money and they have still had a massive upgrade from their RTX 2070, for not a huge sum of money.

I think Bitwit shares your thinking

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Joxeon · 21 Nov 2022 at 19:05

Aegis said:
And the *actually* terrible card (4080 12GB/4070 Ti) is yet to be released. The 4080 16GB is badly priced but the 4070 Ti is just a stinker of a card.

The 4080 12gb looked bad but only because it was going to be $900, had it been labeled a 4060ti which is what it really is and released for $400 it would have been a really good card.

Grim5 · 21 Nov 2022 at 19:11

Aegis said:
I think Bitwit shares your thinking

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Haha that's brilliant. Nvidia did a fantastic job, 20c is super cool and look at that amazing power efficiency, just demolishing everything from AMD, haha I think we know who the middle finger picture was meant for

kieran_read · 21 Nov 2022 at 19:12

Aegis said:
I think Bitwit shares your thinking

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HIs review was hilarious, I wasn't expecting that epic troll when I started.

Nexus18 · 21 Nov 2022 at 19:40

Think even if 4080 did drop below 1k, I'll give it a miss as just like the 3090/ti, it wasn't worth the extra cost compared to a 3080. Realistically, only thing worthwhile as an upgrade would be a 4090 but way too expensive, especially when there is a very good chance a 4080ti will drop offering similar performance for far cheaper at some point next year imo.

Phixsator · 21 Nov 2022 at 19:47

Nexus18 said:
Think even if 4080 did drop below 1k, I'll give it a miss as just like the 3090/ti, it wasn't worth the extra cost compared to a 3080. Realistically, only thing worthwhile as an upgrade would be a 4090 but way too expensive, especially when there is a very good chance a 4080ti will drop offering similar performance for far cheaper at some point next year imo.

The 4080 shouldn't have been a penny over 700 dollars and the 4090 a penny over 1000 and then its still rather steep I feel. Can't see a 4080ti being worth it no matter what nvidia price it at due to the royal f up of a price they gave the 4080. Nvidia have limited their own options pretty hard IMHO.

von Humboldt · 21 Nov 2022 at 19:55

At this rate, the 4070 Ti will be hitting the 1K mark in the UK by the time you add in the pre-scalping, exchange rates yadda yadda. Obnoxious.

Nexus18 · 21 Nov 2022 at 19:56

Phixsator said:
The 4080 shouldn't have been a penny over 700 dollars and the 4090 a penny over 1000 and then its still rather steep I feel. Can't see a 4080ti being worth it no matter what nvidia price it at due to the royal f up of a price they gave the 4080. Nvidia have limited their own options pretty hard IMHO.

Think 4090 at 1000 is a bit much given 3090 price and previous titan/halo tier pricing has always been silly prices

I think if a 4080ti came in at 1300/1400 offering within 5% of 4090 perf. it would look good value but ideally once ampere stock is gone, hopefully nvidia will drop the price of the 4080 to 1k or less and 4080ti will come in at 1100/1200 but obviously that is extremely unlikely, however, at the same time, 4080 looks to be selling horribly..... AMD have cut their 7xxx cpu prices there, probably due to poor sales (probably due to silly pricing and intel being very competitive) so same could happen in gpu space...

Phixsator · 21 Nov 2022 at 20:10

Nexus18 said:
Think 4090 at 1000 is a bit much given 3090 price and previous titan/halo tier pricing has always been silly prices

I think if a 4080ti came in at 1300/1400 offering within 5% of 4090 perf. it would look good value but ideally once ampere stock is gone, hopefully nvidia will drop the price of the 4080 to 1k or less and 4080ti will come in at 1100/1200 but obviously that is extremely unlikely, however, at the same time, 4080 looks to be selling horribly..... AMD have cut their 7xxx cpu prices there, probably due to poor sales (probably due to silly pricing and intel being very competitive) so same could happen in gpu space...

nVidia is/was capable of decent pricing.. The 970 spite its lackluster memory setup was a very good GPU for the price it cost. Same goes for the 1080ti, what a champ of a card, and I remember I paid less than a 1/3 for it brand new than what some of the cheapest 4090 are selling for right now.. I simply do not buy that overall cost has increases so much that it warrants a 300% increase in price.. I don't care who is selling what, red or green, price hiking like this is just insane. The "crazy" part is that I really don't blame the companies, as it is in the nature of capitalism to push for maximum profit until the consumers says no thank you. The consumers on the other hand are reaping what they sowed back when they willy nilly paid 1000, 1200, 1500 and 2000 bucks for a GPU that was clearly overpriced IMHO.

Calin Banc · 21 Nov 2022 at 20:42

Nexus18 said:
Think 4090 at 1000 is a bit much given 3090 price and previous titan/halo tier pricing has always been silly prices

I think if a 4080ti came in at 1300/1400 offering within 5% of 4090 perf. it would look good value but ideally once ampere stock is gone, hopefully nvidia will drop the price of the 4080 to 1k or less and 4080ti will come in at 1100/1200 but obviously that is extremely unlikely, however, at the same time, 4080 looks to be selling horribly..... AMD have cut their 7xxx cpu prices there, probably due to poor sales (probably due to silly pricing and intel being very competitive) so same could happen in gpu space...

Isn't that the "scheme" to increase prices? Price silly one product and take the heat as the next one already becomes the norm since people just throw the money at it forgetting the "outcry" just one gen away...

Chuk_Chuk · 21 Nov 2022 at 20:44

SpellowHouse said:
I am not convinced at all that NVIDIA will learn. Also, I have tended to notice in the past that once a particular GPU's reputation is damaged, that's pretty much it for the life of that GPU. I think now that 4080 sales will never reach expectations even if they do reduce the price.
Anyway, I have said it before - I was going to buy a 4080, but they have pushed the price in to a very uncomfortable place for me. Had it been £800 or so then I would have bought one, but I really can't see them ever coming down that much. I have no need of anything less. Perhaps the 7900xtx will be closer to what I want but even that is really too expensive. I can think of many other things I would prefer to spend £1000 on.

They won’t reduce the price they will just launch the super series and give us the cards they should have given us in the first place.

tommybhoy · 21 Nov 2022 at 21:37

SpellowHouse said:
I have tended to notice in the past that once a particular GPU's reputation is damaged, that's pretty much it for the life of that GPU. I think now that 4080 sales will never reach expectations even if they do reduce the price.

This
They've wrecked the 40 series so far, renaming tiers/melting connectors/unlaunching gpus/scalping from the source.

Resulting on the 'cheaper' first batch of gpus sitting on shelf, they were sitting waiting on them to fly off shelves to get the next lot out at a higher price. :cry:

rumple9 · 21 Nov 2022 at 21:51

Journey said:
I just completed a build today, the user was waiting for the 40-series, and was convinced the 4080 16GB would be a great option, but at nearly £1300 the price vs performance increase just wasn't worth it. User has gone with an RTX 3090 FE picked up for £660, boxed like new. This is where Nvidia are losing sales as well, the used market, so they aren't even clearing out old stock like they wanted.

Best bit is in 12 months the 3090 will still be worth £400-450 even if they cut the price in half for the 4080, so the user isn't wasting money and they have still had a massive upgrade from their RTX 2070, for not a huge sum of money.

I would be uncomfortable spending that amount of money on a second hand graphics card, especially one that may have been mined on and used 24 hours a day for 2 years.
Following the launch of the 4080 last week, for the first time my local cex had 5 used 3080/ti/3090 in and physically they looked like they were in a right state - covered in scratches etc

Journey · 21 Nov 2022 at 21:54

rumple9 said:
I would be uncomfortable spending that amount of money on a second hand graphics card, especially one that may have been mined on and used 24 hours a day for 2 years.

Well given he got a receipt for it and it was purchased in May '22 he isn't that worried, and he picked it up from the guys house. The system it came out of now has a 4090 in it, so just someone who likes to throw money at the wall, some would call them enthusiasts.

tommybhoy · 22 Nov 2022 at 00:16

mrk said:

Oooft, so, currently you can purchase a faster AMD gpu that performs more or less the same in RT as an equivalent priced RTX. :eek:

SpellowHouse · 22 Nov 2022 at 09:09

mrk said:

I really would like to know why they are so much more expensive outside the USA.

Harlequin · 22 Nov 2022 at 09:18

SpellowHouse said:
I really would like to know why they are so much more expensive outside the USA.

Exchange rates and sales tax. In the UK we have VAT added to prices we see - so thats the price paid. In the USA, sales tax is based on each state, so its added at the checkout process. Also, exchange rates ; right now its $1.18 to £1 , not the low est which was in September of $1.08 to £1, but not the average for the past year of $1.30 to £1.