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his (correct) point is that if you get almost no additional performance, Zen4 is currently better value
incoming price cuts are in the air
if 9700X cost the same as 7700X, nobody would have a problem recommending it
could it be an intern doing for example handbrake benchmark and reading results wrong? instead of 9700X being 42% faster than 14700K it actually took 42% more time to run. And bigger number better, right?Will we ever know how they ended up with the claims in the slides ? No one seems to match them
Yeah if you believe AMDs slidesBut the 9700X has significantly more performance.
his (correct) point is that if you get almost no additional performance, Zen4 is currently better value
incoming price cuts are in the air
if 9700X cost the same as 7700X, nobody would have a problem recommending it
If it's still in stock
Yeah if you believe AMDs slides
Oh... they will be in stock for the next year and more, they aren't going to stop making them because they still make them for EPYC and a lot of those wont meet binning for that, its why they are still making Ryzen 5000, they are never short on stock despite how well they sell, because they always have new batches of them that don't bin to EPYC.
AMD have a lot of chips they need to offload, they are becoming a problem of their own success.
AMD confirmed the 9700x is 5% on average faster than the 7700x across 23 games , if you can believe that
And in the workloads that make up the reason the CPU market exists?AMD confirmed the 9700x is 5% on average faster than the 7700x across 23 games , if you can believe that
And in the workloads that make up the reason the CPU market exists?
Who's buying 8 cores for workloads? It's marketed as a gaming chip
@jigger let it be its not a problem. The price of these will get dropped, just get the popcorn and enjoy the show ffs...
I will probably be oneWho's buying 8 cores for workloads? It's marketed as a gaming chip
I will probably be one
Except my "workloads" is just browser/IDE/desktop stuff. Looking for responsiveness.
And since in browser benchmarks 9700X shows fair and square 14-25% improvement, that works for me.
But I hope some more exploration is done about whats holding Zen5 back
Some is power limit - but PBO doesn't always help, and ruins any claims about improved efficiency
Some is memory starvation. Same IOD, same bandwidth -> same peak performance as 7700X.
Games will probably show a solid improvement from tuned DDR5-6400 memory. But that would apply to 7700X as well
AMD Ryzen 7000 Series [Zen 4] RAM/Memory Scaling feat. Tuned Memory
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Only if you're gullible and fall for the marketing, thankfully most people can see through it and don't forget the 7000 65w parts also came with the box cooler which added an extra bit of VFM.Oof bad data from Steve. Prices have dropped launch to launch.