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OcUK Ryzen 9 3950X review thread

Due to the supply problems which is likely to continue into sometime 2020, I'm thinking waiting for Ryzen 4000 is better as you'll get a faster and cheaper chip.

Do you really want to pay 1000 pounds just to be a little bit better than everyone else. I'm sure some people will but you're gonna probably wait into 2020 for your order to arrive nearly time for Ryzen 4000

also at 1000 pounds+ isn't the new Intel 10 series 18 core cheaper? The 3950x is still a little bit better but it's going to be hard to justify paying more for 2 fewer cores as the Intel part does do well in certain workloads
 
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Grim5 said:
Due to the supply problems which is likely to continue into sometime 2020, I'm thinking waiting for Ryzen 4000 is better as you'll get a faster and cheaper chip.

neo you really want to pay 1000 pounds just to be a little bit better than everyone else. I'm sure some people will but you're gonna probably wait into 2020 for your order to arrive nearly time for Ryzen 4000
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Ryzen 4000 is gonna be cheaper? Where you see that fella? Genuinely interested.
 
Grim5 said:
7nm is under significant supply shortages. All ryzen 3000 chips are price inflated because of this, as stock improves next year prices should come down
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3800X and under are all below MSRP.
It’s a bin / yield issue as AMD can supply all the 3800X and below the world requires without issue.
 
Grim5 said:
7nm is under significant supply shortages. All ryzen 3000 chips are price inflated because of this, as stock improves next year prices should come down
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I do think the shortage have put up prices on the top end amd chips But also on intel side also both sides are suffering with some sort of shortage.

but as for prices coming down I can’t see it at all intel shown that with the 9900ks really bring it out at 599.99. Now we can talk about the excuses of binning low yields manufacturing shortages etc .

but in reality 3900x and 9900k selling at 550+ has shown they can charge more! And I can’t see the prices coming down to much. Yes in theory the 3900x could go back to its $499.99 price but I think it will settle for more then that for a while. And I can see the 10 core intel and amd ryzen 4900x both being 550to 600 dollar range at launch :(
 
Gibbo said:
Guys

The pricing, well you can expect it get far far worse if supply does not change.

So far I've found 4pc through official channels, yes four units, I've sourced another 10 units from a broker for a much higher price.

In short if the supply does not drastically alter, then £799 is really nothing to worry over as I can see places charging well over a grand for these if the supply is going to be so short, you thought 3900X was bad, this CPU is looking set to be 100x worse on the supply front.

For us as a company what do we do?

Keep the MSRP, sell the 4 units, then the additional 10 at a loss and then take 100's potentially thousands of orders for an item we cannot supply or certainly not in a satisfactory time. Because we don't want people placing orders with us for an item they may not get until sometime in 2020!

So it is easier to sell the handful we have at a higher price and at £799 believe it or not we make around £60 profit because of the stock mixing with broker more expensive stock and if supply does not improve then I can see channel price rocketing, because its simple as this we don't want people buying 3950X if we can't supply it, we'd rather they think damn I will just grab a 3900X as its in stock or go the whole hog and upgrade to a thread ripper which supply of is looking much better. Then the handful of people who do buy a 3950X, the handful of stock we get will meet their demand.

You do not like it, but if demand massively outweighs supply, its simply how things work. The problem is supply and I ordered 2500 units via official channels and to get 4 units so far is nothing short of a disaster, if I got my 2500 units, we would be at MSRP, infact we would do everything to be under the MSRP.

I do not like it, I don't want to sell 10, 50 or 100 units at an inflated price.
I want to sell thousands of units at the MSRP and grab all the other kit customers may need to go with that CPU.

If supply situation changes, the pricing will be at MSRP. :)
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Thank you for clearing that out .I did not mean it as a criticism, I was just wondering why .I did not realise the supply is that bad and it makes sense now. Especially seeing couple prices elsewhere the OCUK price is not actually bad I'll stop moaning and just bite the bullet lol
 
Gibbo said:
Our website does not update in real time, though its responsive due to how servers and caches work people would be buying an item showing in stock and be severley disappointed as we know from previous big launches the first five minutes will see several hundred orders and as the website would not update in time there would be a few hundred people all expecting a CPU, yet only 4-6 will only get one.

So for us to disappoint several hundred customers is really not an option.

I've put the question to AMD if we sell at MSRP and sell 500pc on day one, when will we get the remainder so we can keep customers informed, I am still awaiting a response on that.
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Please keep us updated and thanks for the info
 
HEADRAT said:
Why


Why bother with a straight sale at all, if supply is that tight then “auction” them!
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Good idea !

I shall buy them all personally and sell on eBay, perks of the job! ;)

seriously it’s a good idea but ocuk site has no auction ability and from my investigations 3950X stock will be very tight no doubt until next March so I seriously do expect to find these on auction sites at well over a grand.
 
Gibbo said:
Good idea !

I shall buy them all personally and sell on eBay, perks of the job! ;)

seriously it’s a good idea but ocuk site has no auction ability and from my investigations 3950X stock will be very tight no doubt until next March so I seriously do expect to find these on auction sites at well over a grand.
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Next March? That's crazy .... I'm sitting with my new build all boxed and waiting for the CPU but if it's going to be that bad I may as well go for a 3900x :|
 
Gibbo said:
Good idea !

I shall buy them all personally and sell on eBay, perks of the job! ;)

seriously it’s a good idea but ocuk site has no auction ability and from my investigations 3950X stock will be very tight no doubt until next March so I seriously do expect to find these on auction sites at well over a grand.
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I fully understand the spot you are in Gibbo and the OcUK shop. You are a business and you need to get products and make profit.

What I find wrong is AMDs production issues and no announcements of why the stock on these is stupidly low. I recall somewhere they said that we wouldn't have the 9900K fiasco where you couldn't find the processor in RRP or at all for months. Well it looks like it is actually worse haven't seen the 3900x for RRP since September and that was for a day (not through ocUK though). I read at an AMD sales chart for the German market and you could see the 3900x even though it did sell, there weren't many that got sold. The market to buy it is there how AMD didn't anticipate the demand I have no clue. And the 3950x Gibbo says will be worse, all I can say is well done shooting your foot AMD for not being able to make money out of these products.

I don't build often a new PC, in fact I always used to buy used stuff and maybe a new gpu etc. and haven't built one since 2008 appart from some new gpus.

I am waiting on the 3950x product since basically it was hinted last January, then July (skipped on 3900x to wait for 3950x), then September (where I skipped again on getting the 3900x at RRP price DOH!) and now november to find out again I won't be able to get my hands on a 3950x. Honestly the new processors will be announced in a bit and we will be doing circles again. I am no Intel or AMD biased I will get what is the better product my pocket can afford and I am glad AMD has great products to shake the industry, but not being able to buy one on at least RRP defeats the whole purpose. That is a big shame and its frustrating how there is this big radio silence about the production of these products. Apologies for my small rant.

PS. I am also sitting on parts bought since last XMas, that are getting old, and wasn't sure if i should get RAM and mobo before the CPU but from the looks of it I will wait on those and possibly miss a deal or 2 just in case i don't get the CPU and there is more months waiting for me
 
apostolis_kt said:
I am waiting on the 3950x product since basically it was hinted last January, then July (skipped on 3900x to wait for 3950x), then September (where I skipped again on getting the 3900x at RRP price DOH!) and now november to find out again I won't be able to get my hands on a 3950x.

PS. I am also sitting on parts bought since last XMas, that are getting old, and wasn't sure if i should get RAM and mobo before the CPU but from the looks of it I will wait on those and possibly miss a deal or 2 just in case i don't get the CPU and there is more months waiting for me
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I so feel you, I got delivered the last parts needed for my new build today also from oc.uk :D , in the anticipation of 3950x releasing soon, looks like I did an oopsie.
 
If you are sat waiting parts then why not just throw in a £99 R5 2600, then sell it when you get the 3950X, or if you want more oomph get the R5 3600?

Seems literally stupid to sit with parts going out of warranty and untested for so long. :)
 
Journey said:
If you are sat waiting parts then why not just throw in a £99 R5 2600, then sell it when you get the 3950X, or if you want more oomph get the R5 3600?

Seems literally stupid to sit with parts going out of warranty and untested for so long. :)
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I'm actually considering this, but first have to see how the 3950x launch goes , maybe there will be good news regarding the supply?
 
Journey said:
If you are sat waiting parts then why not just throw in a £99 R5 2600, then sell it when you get the 3950X, or if you want more oomph get the R5 3600?

Seems literally stupid to sit with parts going out of warranty and untested for so long. :)
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You are absolutely right but at the start i didn't think i would be doing that. This will be my last attempt if again i fail ill go the 6 core route and get me a 4900x or something in 2 to 3 years time. I will be banging my head on the wall if i spend 300ish for an x570 and the x670 comes out with passive cooling in the heatsinks though ahahahha
 
Journey said:
If you are sat waiting parts then why not just throw in a £99 R5 2600, then sell it when you get the 3950X, or if you want more oomph get the R5 3600?

Seems literally stupid to sit with parts going out of warranty and untested for so long. :)
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I agree!

My latest conversations reveal that 3950X will be like a needle in a hay stack until 2020. Also check out the new Athlon 3000G if you really want a bargain basement CPU, £49.99 for a dual core with VEGA graphics, epic value for money CPU from AMD for anyone wanting to build a cheap basic box or get a high-end rig up and running in the short term.
 
Gibbo said:
I agree!

My latest conversations reveal that 3950X will be like a needle in a hay stack until 2020. Also check out the new Athlon 3000G if you really want a bargain basement CPU, £49.99 for a dual core with VEGA graphics, epic value for money CPU from AMD for anyone wanting to build a cheap basic box or get a high-end rig up and running in the short term.
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How's that with a RTX 2080 TI? :D
 
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