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OcUK Ryzen APU review thread

Beren said:
Perhaps an obvious statement, but I would bet a call to Overclockers would confirm very quickly which of their boards are APU ready. I am in New Zealand so use a retailer here - and they had three boards that they knew would work. It was 10 bucks more than going with the Prime, which would have been my preference - but it did mean i got a board that I knew would work.
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Can you remember the list?? It would be useful!!
 
MagicBoy said:
I'm guessing a "boot kit" is a loan low-spec CPU that you can use to update the BIOS?
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You say that but I had the same issue when I bought an Intel 7700k and tried to put it in a Maximus Gene VIII. The problem being the mobo was brand new and made end of 2015 and the cpu was early 2017.

I eventually got round it because the motherboard allowed the BIOS to be flashed with an updated version from a USB stick without needing any CPU at all.

Then with the BIOS updated it recognised the new CPU and all was well.


Maybe the same is possible for the AM4 boards. In which case a kit could simply be a dongle with a bios on it?
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Can you remember the list?? It would be useful!!
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Sorry, no. They said there were 3 B350 boards that they were carrying that they knew they could sell with confidence. Can we name drop some OCUK staff and see if someone can give us a comment on known good stock being sold by them?
 
Beren said:
Sorry, no. They said there were 3 B350 boards that they were carrying that they knew they could sell with confidence. Can we name drop some OCUK staff and see if someone can give us a comment on known good stock being sold by them?
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It would be useful - if we can at least get some good candidates,at least it will be a guide for any early adopters.
 
Yay! Bios 22b and I have full GPU control... Happy me is happy. Now I need to find some good games that are not too graphically intensive...
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I am a bit peeved with that - its quite obvious to AMD there are plenty of motherboards which don't work with it since,so I don't simply understand why they didn't ship the kit to retailers,so you could buy one for a nominal fee if you needed it.

They only mentioned it after launch when people had issues,and the problem is looking at the compatibility list won't tell you whether a board at a retailer works or not.

I honestly feel AMD needs to do something about this - its the second consumer launch where there are motherboard problems and despite the AGESA update being available in November and most likely ES RR CPUs for months before that due to RR mobile,their own partners CBA.

It reflects bad on AMD.
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Probably a kibbled BR CPU. I honestly can't believe AMD made such a great APU,and now compatability is a mindfield. There really seems to be a big issue between them and their board partners. RR came out in October for laptops,so including the ramping up of production,ES should have been there for the better part of six months.

I naively thought that most boards should boot fine,at least enough to get a BIOS update but there is no guarentee of that.

Asus did some updates in December,but the rest of them seemed to have released updates only recently:

https://www.kitguru.net/components/...-raven-ridge-apu-support-to-am4-motherboards/

ATM,I am trying to make a list to see what boards should work out of the box,even for basic BIOS updating. If people have to order a £45 BR CPU,or wait an unknown amount of time,its really not a good thing.
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You could argue that they should've made even early BIOS versions at least boot to the BIOS with unknown CPUs, but I honestly don't know how feasible that is. Only AMD or motherboard vendors will probably know.

We really should have a way of upgrading BIOS versions without having a CPU installed these days. Some vendors already do this (Asus for example), so hopefully all of them will have this facility soon - it'd solve all these sorts of headaches. Ironically, the fact that Intel change sockets every 2 years and make barely any changes to new drop-in CPUs means they aren't affected by this issue. :p
 
Typically you're spending top bucks on a board that'll flash without a valid CPU in? I've only had to so this once before, on an Asus P9X79.

I'm fortunate here that where I'd be buying, the seller will do it for me at the time.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Why did we suddenly limit this to e-sports games?
I didn't mention e-sports, I just said "game".
And generally for e-sports don't you want 120 or 144fps or higher?

As for the numbers Humbug listed.
For Tom's hardware I'd say 2 out of 5 are not playable.
For Techpower up I'd say 7 out of 10.

but we can have different opinions, that's fine.

The chip seems decent, but I was hoping for a little more.
To be fair I was hoping for more from CoffeeLake, Ryzen and Vega too.
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try doing this on a Intel iGPU.

These CPU's were NEVER supposed to be a replacement for 1060/RX580 plus graphics, but rather 1030 range and downwards. Remember its only 8 and 11 Vega CU's down from 56 and 64 for the dedicated graphics cards.
 
Overlag said:
try doing this on a Intel iGPU.

These CPU's were NEVER supposed to be a replacement for 1060/RX580 plus graphics, but rather 1030 range and downwards. Remember its only 8 and 11 Vega CU's down from 56 and 64 for the dedicated graphics cards.
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I do think I ever suggested an Intel chip would be better.

It's a good point that it's only 11 and not 56 or 64. That should've lowered my expectations (although I don't think I really paid attention to all the details).

I was just hoping I'd be able to build a SFF PC I could take to gaming LANs and not need a dedicated GPU. It seems this is not the APU for that job, maybe the next iteration (or the one after that).

At the minute I'm running a Ryzen 5 1400 with a GTX 980. At 1080p I find this will run most games, I have to turn the settings down of course. With the 2400G it seems there's almost a 50% chance that the game won't really be playable.
I mean I didn't expect GTX 980 performance, but I was hoping it'd be a bit better, maybe we'd need closer to 20 Vega CUs for that sort of performance.
 
I haven't bought a game since xcom, I play NB quake3/ql and civ now days, it's perfect for my needs. Will cut my power draw from 240-400 to sub 100w.

Fx8350+670gtx
 
Looks like the 'boot kit' is a free A6-9500:

Follow the instructions on the company's support page and the company will send you what it calls a "boot kit" to flash your firmware. What that actually means is that you'll get a free CPU—a dual core A6-9500, which is probably the cheapest, slowest CPU with integrated GPU that AMD has—that you can plop into your board and flash.
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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ocessors-to-solve-firmware-flashing-catch-22/

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/7th-gen-a6-9500-apu
 
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