***Official 2010 F1 thread***

An interesting aspect of McLaren's statement on signing Jenson Button is the repeated mention of "Vodafone McLaren Mercedes":Are McLaren (aka Vodafone McLaren Mercedes) trying to make some sort of a point here? ;)

Are you new to F1? The team name is Vodafone McLaren Mercedes. Vodafone is the title sponsor and Mercedes obviously have a deal to have Mercedes in the team name as well.
 
Are you new to F1? ...
No.

... The team name is Vodafone McLaren Mercedes. ...
Yes, as McLaren are apparently very keen to remind us.

... Vodafone is the title sponsor and Mercedes obviously have a deal to have Mercedes in the team name as well.
Perhaps you haven't been interested in F1 long enough to know that not so very long ago, Vodafone unexpectedly dumped Ferrari. They also dumped Manchester United; again, not so very long ago.

I expect that McLaren ARE aware of this past fickleness on the part of Vodafone :p
 
I've noticed that when ever it rains hard, Webber really comes out strongly against racing in the wet.

I wonder if Senna was still around what his opinion of racing in the wet would be.

theres a race at adelaide or somewhere and the track has massive puddles of standing water all over its pretty much a lake and senna is the one who waves at the marshalls.

but it was silly by that point.

its only recently drivers have had a problem with wet weather i dont remember hakkinen or schumacher ever moaning about the wether and they raced in some pretty bad conditions

races like this used to be perfectly acceptable and would be a test of who had balls
we had quite a few really bad weather races that year
these days people like webber start crying as soon as the sun isnt shining
 
Am I allowed to have a "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! i'm so excited about McClaren next season!" moment? :D
 
Surely the wet racing argument of today is a lot different than back in sennas day?

Under my assumption that the aero is all different, and todays cars have the rather large board under the car that means hitting water turns the car into a boat that goes where it wants to!
 
Silverstone would be a sell out, I'll be saving for grandstand tickets as soon / if its confirmed. What's the latest on it and do you think it will go ahead?
 
Surely the wet racing argument of today is a lot different than back in sennas day?

Under my assumption that the aero is all different, and todays cars have the rather large board under the car that means hitting water turns the car into a boat that goes where it wants to!

Yeah, you're probably right! Perhaps if the teams knew that the race wouldn't be called off when there's a heavy downpour, they'd design the cars to be more forgiving in the wet.
 
Surely the wet racing argument of today is a lot different than back in sennas day?

Under my assumption that the aero is all different, and todays cars have the rather large board under the car that means hitting water turns the car into a boat that goes where it wants to!

they had boards in 98? check the silverstone vid i posted , spa was even worse in 98 and i think monza might have been really wet aswell
 
Well it's a ride height thing really isn't it? There's been boards for years and years, just they design the cars to come as close to the ground as possible for more downforce. There is a ride hight limit now - not sure on the number, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's still a lot lower than in '98.
 
Yes, as McLaren are apparently very keen to remind us.
Team press releases have always had the full team name in, what the hell are you on about? :confused: It's part of the sponsorship/supply deals as to whether a company is part of the name of the team entered into F1. This team is called Vodafone Mclaren Mercedes, it's not just something they made up.

Perhaps you haven't been interested in F1 long enough to know that not so very long ago, Vodafone unexpectedly dumped Ferrari. They also dumped Manchester United; again, not so very long ago.

I expect that McLaren ARE aware of this past fickleness on the part of Vodafone :p

What does this have to do with anything? :confused:
 
Well it's a ride height thing really isn't it? There's been boards for years and years, just they design the cars to come as close to the ground as possible for more downforce. There is a ride hight limit now - not sure on the number, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's still a lot lower than in '98.

it apears as though there has been no minimum ride height since the early 80s, looks as though anything is fine aslong as the 10mm skid plate isnt worn down by more than 1mm.

doubt the cars are running any lower now than they did in the late 90s
 
well after reading all this all i can say is that i can't wait for 2010 season to come, something tells me it's going to be one of best seasons in years

mclaren vs ferrari is what im looking most forward to :)
 
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