***Official 2010 F1 thread***

[utajoker]

Nice armchair. Button was coming across traffic up ahead, Hamilton thought he had half a chance of pulling a Mika I guess...

everyone moans that there is no overtaking or excitement then someone has a go at catching someone making a daring move and they then become stupid risk takers.

im glad he went for it rather than just settling, ofcourse it would have been better if he didnt crash but he had nothing to lose so why not

 

[clv101]

welcome for bormula one.

No one has to watch it. If you find it boring just ignoring it... the same way I ignore golf when it's on the TV.

I certainly wouldn't consider finding a forum about golf and commenting how boring it is!

 

[Dutch Guy]

Steel brakes, Monza downforce and twice the engine power is what F1 needs to be exciting and fun to watch, that way the limit is how daring the driver is, not just driving flatout most of the time.

F1 shouldn't be about safety but about excitement

 

[arknor]

No one has to watch it. If you find it boring just ignoring it... the same way I ignore golf when it's on the TV.

I certainly wouldn't consider finding a forum about golf and commenting how boring it is!

you have the wrong end of the stick, i meant it would be boring if it wasnt for the agressive drivers that have a hunger to win, the ones who push the car to its limits and sometimes beyond , the ones who will see a gap and go for it with little hesitation.

if all drivers were boring and waited for the perfect overtaking opertunity rather than seizing the moment then it would be bormula one, i dont want to watch a bunch of sunday drivers in fast cars i want to watch some people with racing in there blood going all out for the win

 

[NathanE]

everyone moans that there is no overtaking or excitement then someone has a go at catching someone making a daring move and they then become stupid risk takers.

im glad he went for it rather than just settling, ofcourse it would have been better if he didnt crash but he had nothing to lose so why not

Exactly. It is what makes Hamilton a hard core racer. He isn't like most of the others that take no risks. And besides, it was such a minor error that 9 times out of 10 he would have corrected it before it even unfolded for the cameras.

 

[PinkFloyd]

Glad I'm not the only one who loves Hamilton for the fact he will happily push beyond 100% all of the time

 

[philjohn]

No Japanese GP thread up yet?

 

[Sukh]

I think thy should make the point gaps larger for the positions to encourage people. Like at the moment if you are within a few places the loss of points difference is quite small so drivers just drive out the race and accept it. If the points were even more progressive the higher you finish it would force drivers to race and fight for places?

 

[Duke]

I think thy should make the point gaps larger for the positions to encourage people. Like at the moment if you are within a few places the loss of points difference is quite small so drivers just drive out the race and accept it. If the points were even more progressive the higher you finish it would force drivers to race and fight for places?

Yep that would be good. They closed the gap some years ago when Schumacher was dominating as he could win the WDC very early. It would work well if you had several close contenders though.

 

[PinkFloyd]

I think they should have points like in the MotoGP, higher point scores throughout the field to give something to fight for all the way down the grid, but big increases every time you get closer to the front of the field.

 

[sunama]

Nice armchair. Button was coming across traffic up ahead, Hamilton thought he had half a chance of pulling a Mika I guess...

Hamilton was attempting to go as fast as he could to close down Button, in the laps after Button's and Hamilton's pitstops (of which there were quite a few). During that time he couldnt close Button down significantly. If anything, Button was the guy who was more comfortable. Furthermore, on a track like Singapore, the car behind needs to be significantly faster, which Hamilton wasn't.

It was a silly move because Hamilton wanted to catch and pass Button in approximately half a lap. Something, which he was unable to do in all the laps since the last round of pitstops. It wouldve been understandable, had Button been slowing down significantly, perhaps due to car problems, but this was not the case.

Please don't make excuses for Hamilton. He is currently my favourite driver, but even I can admit that he made a serious error in judgement. He himself admitted that it was a mistake and it's pretty obvious that he simply got carried away.

 

[sunama]

If you guys fancy a laugh and can read spanish, go to the marca website and read the comments left by the fans, on the alonso news. Its all about how the next 5 wdc tittles are his and that he is the greatest ever,won the wdc with a very bad car, the man who retired summi etc.

5 titles
greatest driver
won the WDC in a bad car
responsible for retiring MS ... partially responsible, I'd say.

I hope he doesn't win anything. Starts with a c ends with a t.

Why the hate?
Can't we all just get along?

 

[tonyyeb]

I hope he doesn't win anything. Starts with a c ends with a t.

He's a cat?

 

[NathanE]

Hamilton was attempting to go as fast as he could to close down Button, in the laps after Button's and Hamilton's pitstops (of which there were quite a few). During that time he couldnt close Button down significantly. If anything, Button was the guy who was more comfortable. Furthermore, on a track like Singapore, the car behind needs to be significantly faster, which Hamilton wasn't.

It was a silly move because Hamilton wanted to catch and pass Button in approximately half a lap. Something, which he was unable to do in all the laps since the last round of pitstops. It wouldve been understandable, had Button been slowing down significantly, perhaps due to car problems, but this was not the case.

Please don't make excuses for Hamilton. He is currently my favourite driver, but even I can admit that he made a serious error in judgement. He himself admitted that it was a mistake and it's pretty obvious that he simply got carried away.

Hamilton was testing Button. That was all. He wanted to see what Button's reaction would be to him coming storming up behind him at a couple tenths per lap.

Alas he made a mistake and it backfired.

Hamilton made no "serious error of judgement" (other than perhaps a couple millimeters on the throttle pedal on that corner). His team told him explicitly that they needed 8 qualifying laps. That is what he was doing. If anyone got carried away it was his team in, effectively, plotting to overtake Button. Which was always a long shot. But, as said, they were hoping the sight of a raging Silver car and Yellow helmet was going to scare Button off the track

The traffic up ahead was just another tantalising variable which probably played a role in continuing to push.

</my opinion>

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

So... As a fan of Alonso AND Massa, does this mean that I now like Ferrari?

 

[NathanE]

"Kimi Raikkonen cut through the McLaren garage on his way through to the pit lane. Maybe he thought it was 2010 already" -- http://twitter.com/noblef1

Love it

 

[sunama]

So... As a fan of Alonso AND Massa, does this mean that I now like Ferrari?

Most definitely.

 

[tonyyeb]

So... As a fan of Alonso AND Massa, does this mean that I now like Ferrari?

Ha ha!

 

[Mr Jack]

I think they should have points like in the MotoGP, higher point scores throughout the field to give something to fight for all the way down the grid, but big increases every time you get closer to the front of the field.

Yeah, I think importing the MotoGP point system would be a great idea.

 

[FrankJH]

Glad I'm not the only one who loves Hamilton for the fact he will happily push beyond 100% all of the time

I can promise you he wont when there is a championship at stake (unless he needs to in the final race - in which case its win/win either way)

Its so difficult to overtake these days/years and ontop of that gaining one position at most gets you two points (and more often one), and the loss of a front wing by the person infront chopping you off costs too much time in the pitlane - most of the time its too big a risk for little reward at this point of the season

If its to gain four points it would be a lot easier to justify going for an overtake, thats why imo the best driving/ most entertaining races from a WDC will always be at the start and in the middle of every season

I think they should have points like in the MotoGP, higher point scores throughout the field to give something to fight for all the way down the grid, but big increases every time you get closer to the front of the field.

Hadnt seen this - I totally agree, then it would really open up (but technical design rules would also have to open up to ease the chance of overtaking also imo)

Yep that would be good. They closed the gap some years ago when Schumacher was dominating as he could win the WDC very early. It would work well if you had several close contenders though.

Narrowing the difference in points lengthens the championship battle, it doesnt shorten it

(I still prefer 10 - 6 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 method used previously though)