***Official 2010 F1 thread***

stockhausen said:
I can't see the significance of this announcement.
Has Gilles Simon done something wrong?
Has Luca Marmorini been on gardening leave from Toyota since January?
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Very strange to do something like this at the end of the season imo (even if Ferrari are only fighting for 3rd in the CWC wiht McLaren)

Also a bit of a strange amount of gardening leave too (8 months by my reckoning)

Dont think there is much major significance though
 
I think thats a bad move for Kubica. Renault are treading water even with the great teflonso right now. I can't see them doing anything except tread water until renault pull the plug.

I think Toyota would have been a better option.
 
dannyjo22 said:
I think thats a bad move for Kubica. Renault are treading water even with the great teflonso right now. I can't see them doing anything except tread water until renault pull the plug.

I think Toyota would have been a better option.
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Sorry, but I agree with Bernie's take on Howett (that he doesn't really have a clue). Renault (parent company, not F1) are making positive noises about staying in F1, Toyota (parent company, not F1) aren't (and are delaying making a decision about budget for next year). Renault F1 have won previously, Toyota are still chasing a win after untold billions.

Williams would have been an OK choice, however, their engine situation for next year is too murky and I don't fancy their chances with a 4 year old cossie design if they don't go with Renault.

On the subject of the Renault engine, I think it's been shown that it's around as powerful as the merc lump after the commanding performance at the weekend (and I believe Vettel was holding a lot back to conserve the engine and fuel). Perhaps the Monza showing for Mercedes has more to do with those teams having a more highly developed low-downforce Monza spec than anything else?
 
Ross Brawn is convinced further radical rule changes are necessary to increase overtaking and improve the spectacle in Formula 1.
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One factor that blunted the planned downforce reduction was the loophole in the regulations that spawned the controversial twin-diffuser designs pioneered by Brawn, Toyota and Williams and subsequently developed by the rest of the F1 grid.

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=47125
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You do have to give Ross Brawn credit for his chutzpah :D
 
Flibster said:
Interesting rumour time.
The McLaren MP4/12 roadcar has a McLaren engine

The 2010 McLaren F1 car may have a McLaren engine, if the rumour is true. McLaren are interested in buying the BMW F1 engine division.

Given that Mercedes owns 40% of McLaren though, I really doubt they'd let them do that.
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Aren't engine suppliers only allowed to supply two teams. So that would be McLaren and Brawn (think the big push into Brawn is 2011). No Force India.

A McLaren engine would be cool.
 
philjohn said:
On the subject of the Renault engine, I think it's been shown that it's around as powerful as the merc lump after the commanding performance at the weekend (and I believe Vettel was holding a lot back to conserve the engine and fuel). Perhaps the Monza showing for Mercedes has more to do with those teams having a more highly developed low-downforce Monza spec than anything else?
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It was the chassis that was impressive imo rather than the engine per se (look at how bad Alonso was with the same engine)

Its a decent mid grid engine, or lowest of Merc / Ferrari / Renault on power - but the Newey chassis has just made it look that good at the weekend imo (and I dont believe Vettel was holding back that much - according to Horner they where worried if they had put any fuel in at teh 2nd stop because he was going so fast (maybe a little exagerated but even so shows V wasnt holding back)
 
Looks like kubica has gone to renualt, in two minds about it. A step down imo but then again bmw have pulled out, so a setup. Is the glass half full i ask myself.
 
Webber mad to stay loyal to Flav if it means losing his seat. I thought it wouldn't matter who he drove for he wouldn't be allowed to stay with him and keep a super license?
 
dannyjo22 said:
Webber mad to stay loyal to Flav if it means losing his seat. I thought it wouldn't matter who he drove for he wouldn't be allowed to stay with him and keep a super license?
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The FIA will not renew the licenses of anyone still under Flavs management, i believe this applys to all forms of motorsport governed by the FIA aswell.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Webber mad to stay loyal to Flav if it means losing his seat. I thought it wouldn't matter who he drove for he wouldn't be allowed to stay with him and keep a super license?
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Webber is managing himself, he has just not "distanced" himself, or condemned Briatore (I think) Its a PR thing I think more than anyone else.

I don't think he is losing his Superlicense.
 
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Dutch Guy said:
Kimi to RBR and Mark Webber to McLaren perhaps?
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If the story is true then that would probably work for all parties....in fact I doubt RBR would fork out that kind of money for Kimi

Also if Mark has got a signed contract for 2010, and he manages himself then its a non story without a pay off surely? (I can understand RBR being let out of the remaining amount of the contract for free IF Flav still manages MW , but if he doesnt then its got nothing to do with them either way who Mark "personally" supports)

IF MW and FB have no legal contract in that regard, then I cant see what RBR can complain about
 
I'm surprised they can get anything done at Red Bull. If all they drink is Red Bull they must all twitch like a nervous sphincter. :D
 
EddScott said:
I'm surprised they can get anything done at Red Bull. If all they drink is Red Bull they must all twitch like a nervous sphincter. :D
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Did you notice the not-so-subtle angling of the red-bull can by one of the guys on the Torro Rosso pit wall after Algewhatshisname's crash? :D

And, if he drinks the stuff on the pitwall, it's no wonder Horner is always jiggling his leg.
 
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