Just one more thing taken away from designers. They don't do any harm and I can't see any sensible argument for banning them.
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Just one more thing taken away from designers. They don't do any harm and I can't see any sensible argument for banning them.
They look disgusting?
That's not a sensible argument for banning something that is about technology and racing.
wings often brake and fly off should we ban them? and they aren't allowed to send a car out with out a locked wheel nut.
It would be suicidal for button to move to Mclaren.
No reason why Brawn can not get a 2010 winning car. They held back on development this year because the McLaren engine was not designed for the car and as such was shoe horned in and stopped a lot of possible development. They will also have proper investment next year, maybe even Mercedes. He should certainly stay put.
No reason why Brawn can not get a 2010 winning car. They held back on development this year because the McLaren engine was not designed for the car and as such was shoe horned in and stopped a lot of possible development. They will also have proper investment next year, maybe even Mercedes. He should certainly stay put.
It wasn't just resources though. the engine stopped a lot of development. And ultimately wrecked the car.
Yes, they make the car as light as possible. That ballast is then used to balance the car. Using kers compromises the balance due it's weight and where it can be placed.
In it's current form KERS is pointless. If they allowed the system to harness more energy and allow bigger HP or longer firing time. Then it would be good from a technological view. But at the moment it's design is pretty much totally restricted making it pointless. All they should say is limit the capacity of the system either electrical, or fly wheel weight. Then allow them to do what ever they like with it. At some point you can not get more energy as you will first unbalance breaking then start locking wheels up.
Yep and the effects this had on possible future upgrades.
It's in the rules FIA would not interfere other teams would have to start designing as fast as they could.
Don't even need to regulate like that. Reduce fuel tank by 25% initially and allow any engine size. format, turbo or what ever. And every 2 years cut fuel tank size by 5%. End of the decade 50% less fuel being used in a race and hopefully cars doing similar speed. Real world application and kers and other energy recovery systems coming into there own. but only if they are far less regulated as well.
That was before the rules were so tight and this is specifically allowed unlike the others and the rules go into great detail. The comparison is nothing like each other.
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That fact does remain, but is totally pointless and unrelated to what would happen if a team runs kers.
Same as what they did this year with brawn.. Get building the new parts that's all they can do. Thinking anything other than that would happen is utter stupidity.
It's mot an invention. It is specifically allowed in the rules and FIA can not change this. It is not the same as any previous situation you are talking about. Doesn't matter if it/.s 0.5 or 10seconds a lap. They will not ban it, they can not ban it.
WHy cant KERS be placed on the central axis so as not to unbalance the car?
Or Even car is made underweight by more than twice the weight of the KERS unit and then having corresponding weight on the other side of the car (so as to balance the car again)
Just out of interest
It isn't about balance in central line. It's about the overall balance of the car. The weight that is used in kers can be placed anywhere to set the car up and get perfect balance. Also there's only so much space in a car.
It is specifically in teh rules, they can not and will not ban it , if some one runs it. To think otherwise is stupidity.
There is more than a central line in a car for balance. There's front-back and of course height. Using kers severely limits extra weight you can add where you want.
being placed higher - significantly reducing car balance, ulterring the floor pan and top body disrupting there aerodynamics. Better cooling? they had massive problems fitting the cooling and gearbox. Next year will be much improved. It just depends what all the other teams do.
I hope 2 or 3 teams do. But I can't see it being mclaren. Is there any punshiment/fine for putting kers in. As they have all signed a fota agreement.
They haven't signed anything Like a 100mill fine like they did for the rule changes then. If that's the case we might see some run kers then, or at least work on a kers equipped B car.
they've said tehy wont run it though, lets hope they do.
Although it's current form is rubbish. Look at Hamilton using it to get through the field. Extra boost on start/finish straight means you don't get held up in the pack and obviusly helpful but slight less so for real overtaking.
Also seen it used very well to keep faster cars behind.
Only be a point if it is de regulated. Certain weight limit or electrical capacity/fly wheel weight. Let the teams decide how much they want to charge it up as that will massively affect breaking, how much BHP they use and how many seconds. Then it would have a big point and would also have real world benefits for road cars.
This is what I would love to see. A move away from aero. Limit fuel now refuelling has gone. Massively relax engine rules and energy recovery systems. Also allow rules for any other "green" fuel type. Electric, fuel cell. hydrogen ect. Get some proper development back with real world uses.
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