***Official 2010 F1 thread***

Duke said:
Love-hate relationship with Danica, Danny? ;)
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Nah I don't fancy her at all ;) Lots of my american friends are huge ex cart now IRL watchers and they cannot stand her either. Go look at some of the youtube clips of her kicking off.

Look at her stats on Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danica_Patrick if anyone else ran those sort of stats in a IRL career they wouldn't get a look in with F1. We have had enough garbage over the years and that girl earns 7 million a year in the IRL for 1 win in 14 years of racing. She cannot complain about her equipment.

I dont mind that F1 played the whole black angle with lewis, he had actually won races in junior formula to atleast back up the investment. She's won sod all apart from one lucky win in 08. :D

She should pay 7 million a year for a f1 drive. I'd be amazed if she came over for anything other than a top 3 team and none of them would touch her.

Imagine a F1 driver with between 50-100 pounds advantage over his rivals as she had prior to 08.
 
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76518
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/148935/1/fry_f1_entry_could_change.html

I know no one really gives a monkeys about new the new teams - especially now all the big teams are apparently signed up for a few years but they were always going to lose either with the breakaway series or now the lack of a budget cap.

If you were setting up a business to compete with other businesses with a similar amount of spending how would you feel with your plans in place and business set out if your competitors were now allowed to spend much more money. Even with the "technical help" which presumably won't be the up to date stuff - look at how the teams keep secrets now - these new teams if they are still operating on a very low money are going to find it tough to join F1 and tough to progress and stay in F1.

Nick Fry is obviously concerned some will now withdraw, I do not know much about the backup candidates but obviously the FIA would have picked the strongest and best planned teams to join the series and the others would be in the same boat.

Interestingly FOTA see the need for new teams which is good because I would have expected the manufacturers to protect their grid positions/TV money/brand exposure from being watered down by more teams. Now FOTA are this new body that can push the FIA around they must let the new teams join and have their say so that when the manufacturers are getting beaten they cannot just change the rules to suit themselves.
 
It could be any of them, despite best plans USF1 were not trying to enter in the old rules series because of the cash required. The budget cap really helped them as well and now it is gone.

It will come down to who has be best investor or sponsors involved who may want to up the cash put into the teams? Or which teams have sponsors in place and signed up for a number of years without a requirement for success!
 
So you want FOTA to lie Pigeon?

End of the day they got all their proposals accepted and got Max to leave ...
There is also no denying that Max governed F1 as a dictator
 
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76529
Max is the boss at the FIA yes as he is President of the FIA and hence has come under all the flak. As far as I can tell Max Mosley is still the President and running the show at the moment until he steps down or is not re elected in October! Now both sides are canny players. Mosley has no need now a deal is done and everything happy apparently do do anything at all. Someone in his position would not put in writing to the chairman of FOTA Luca di Montezemolo these things if they were not true because there is no need to upset the apple cart. FOTA seem to have briefed the press that he was no longer in charge and therefore he is right to be unhappy.

I wouldn't say he is a dictator just the president of the FIA General Assistant. Alongside this there is the FIA Senate and FIA World Motor Sport Council that run everything. I remember the budget cap rules went before the council and were approved which was between 24 members including a Ferrari representative. This was not the decision of one person to try to change F1 and I do not believe the FIA is a dictatorship driven by Moselys desires. Don't forget the council could have voted him out in the past if they wanted to!

Moseley should go at the end of his term, he has been involved to long and has been to much of a slightly dubious and controversial figure for to long. The FIA need someone who has not got the history who can look at the job without any bias.
 
Pigeon said:
I wouldn't say he is a dictator just the president of the FIA General Assistant. Alongside this there is the FIA Senate and FIA World Motor Sport Council that run everything.
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Except that he has often not followed the procedures - for instance changing dates; changing regulations - under FIA rules the FOTA regulations should not have been accepted as the FIA cannot change regulations on a whim and after entries are lodged.

Mosley's first act was to get rid of FISA - thus giving ultimate power to himself; and since then him and Bernie have slowly but surely taken away control from the teams (no F1 commission for instance).
Him and Bernie effectively killed off FOCA - because once they were in power it was a threat to them - this allowed Bernie to form FOPA/FOM and this control the TV rights - before then FOCA controller the TV rights.

Basically Bernie and Max became exactly what they fought in the FOCA/FISA war - the difference is that now they were in power. The teams let them originally do that because they felt that as former team bosses they would do the right thing for the teams... (as if).
 
Duke said:
Donington gets final planning clearance. Full steam ahead now.
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I don't suppose that the planning permission came with a cheque for many millions attached did it?

Pity really, this year's Silverstone race was so boring that it would be nice to have the event somewhere else in the UK :(
 
JRS said:
Oh, splendid. Another TilkeDrome™. Just what the sport needs.

Joygasm.

*sigh*
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Turkey ain't that bad, nor Bahrain however they are always empty and lifeless. The likes of Silverstone, Monza, Spa and most European GP's are far better but not for the VIP's i guess thats all that matters.

I think F1 needs more street circuits with character... like longbeach, surfers paradise and Singapore, but not that Spanish one that sent me to sleep.
 
Overlag said:
Turkey ain't that bad, nor Bahrain however they are always empty and lifeless. The likes of Silverstone, Monza, Spa and most European GP's are far better but not for the VIP's i guess thats all that matters.
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The commercial enterprise that is F1 doesn't exist for the benefit of people paying to enter the circuit; it exists for TV rights and corporate entertainment.

For the purposes of TV, It really isn't that important whether a circuit is lively or not, they can always dub some wild cheering and show library shots from Monza for crowd scenes; The corporate clients are only there for a few drinks, the prawn sandwiches and some freebies ;)


Overlag said:
I think F1 needs more street circuits with character... like longbeach, surfers paradise and Singapore, but not that Spanish one that sent me to sleep.
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F1 needs more overtaking, end of story. Most TV viewers really wouldn't be able to tell whether a F1 car is doing 150 mph or 200 mph; they do want to see drivers dicing wheel-to-wheel, centimetres apartat high speed down the main straight like Senna and Mansell at the Spanish GP in Barcelona.
 
Manor International Assistance?

Last bit of the article is particularly interesting:

Pitpass hears that FOTA is to demand that the team selection process is not just reviewed but started from scratch. With this latest development that seems a sensible move.
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Damn good idea IMO. USF1 were pretty much expected to get a slot on the grid, but Manor and Campos? They came right out of left-field. I think virtually everyone was expecting different names to feature.

Is it not time that we had a real cull at the FIA? If there is to be a Formula One championship next year ran by them then we need to get rid of some of these self-serving, conniving, charmless tosspots who are steadily taking this sport past the point of no return and get some people in charge who actually care about the sport and its fans. Not too bothered about Bernie hanging around, he's not the real problem despite some of you thinking that he is, in fact, Satan. Mad Max and his sidekick Donnelly are a very big problem, and it's time they were gone from Formula One.
 
JRS said:
Is it not time that we had a real cull at the FIA? If there is to be a Formula One championship next year ran by them then we need to get rid of some of these self-serving, conniving, charmless tosspots who are steadily taking this sport past the point of no return and get some people in charge who actually care about the sport and its fans. Not too bothered about Bernie hanging around, he's not the real problem despite some of you thinking that he is, in fact, Satan. Mad Max and his sidekick Donnelly are a very big problem, and it's time they were gone from Formula One.
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There's only one way to get Max out of power at the FIA.

The question is how can we get him to visit Dallas's Dealey Plaza?
 
JRS said:
then we need to get rid of some of these self-serving, conniving, charmless tosspots who are steadily taking this sport past the point of no return and get some people in charge who actually care about the sport and its fans.
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The same has to be said of the team principles and leading figures at teams. They got rid of one in Ron Dennis there are a few more that need to be beaten into line as well.

You cannot just direct a blame of not caring about the sport to just the FIA, for 20 years or so the teams haven't given a stuff about the fans.

I remember going around the pits in the early 2000's. An open day for Grandstand ticket holders. All the teams covered the cars and put a couple of old nose cones on trestles. The drivers think they are royalty and only once in all the years I've been to GPs have I seen one mingle with the fans. Johnny Herbert.

Compare that to the old Indy/Nascar drivers and the pits there where it's a much more laid back non elitest attitude.

I know plenty of people that have chatted to JV and Montoya and the like in Indy and they were as nice as pie. Yet as soon as they get to F1, give it a year and they join the rest of them in becoming totally inaccessable and up their own backsides.

F1 needs a change of attitude and not just from the Fia, it's why the sport is slowly but surely dieing.
 
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