Official DFI NF4Ultra-D/SLi owners thread.

ps3ud0 · 8 Jun 2005 at 17:31

The latest bios 510-3 I believe as its the only one that supports TCCD and X2 pros...

ps3ud0 :cool:

chompaz · 8 Jun 2005 at 17:37

Thanks for the quick response Concorde, it stretches the budget a bit further for the G-Skill so I think we'll be going the Corsair route. Is anybody running either:

Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200XL XPERT TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-076-CS)
or
Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200XL Pro TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-050-CS)

with the DFI Lanparty Ultra-D board. On the overclockers site it states that the Pro TwinX version definately uses the Samsung TCCD chips however I can't see if the XPERT TwinX uses the TCCD can anybody confirm if it does and also if it is compatible with the motherboard, have there been many horror stories.

Thanks

Chris

FreeStream · 8 Jun 2005 at 17:47

ps3ud0 said:
The latest bios 510-3 I believe as its the only one that supports TCCD and X2 pros...

ps3ud0

Im using 510-1 atm, I having problems tho so Im waiting for the next one out before I flash again!

Concorde

mightynimrod · 8 Jun 2005 at 17:49

chompaz said:
Thanks for the quick response Concorde, it stretches the budget a bit further for the G-Skill so I think we'll be going the Corsair route. Is anybody running either:

Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200XL XPERT TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-076-CS)
or
Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200XL Pro TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-050-CS)

with the DFI Lanparty Ultra-D board. On the overclockers site it states that the Pro TwinX version definately uses the Samsung TCCD chips however I can't see if the XPERT TwinX uses the TCCD can anybody confirm if it does and also if it is compatible with the motherboard, have there been many horror stories.

Thanks

Chris

Get the Corsair XMS 4400 cas 2.5, that definately uses TCCD chips and does 275 fsb out of the box 2.5-4-4-8 1T

andyr · 8 Jun 2005 at 18:58

chompaz said:
Thanks for the quick response Concorde, it stretches the budget a bit further for the G-Skill so I think we'll be going the Corsair route. Is anybody running either:

Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200XL XPERT TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-076-CS)
or
Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200XL Pro TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-050-CS)

with the DFI Lanparty Ultra-D board. On the overclockers site it states that the Pro TwinX version definately uses the Samsung TCCD chips however I can't see if the XPERT TwinX uses the TCCD can anybody confirm if it does and also if it is compatible with the motherboard, have there been many horror stories.

Thanks

Chris

I got the xms 3200 pro and it runs at 250 fsb 1:1 , timimgs 3- 4 -3 -7 , 1T
ok but not great i too would go for the 4400 stuff

smids · 8 Jun 2005 at 19:10

andyr said:
I got the xms 3200 pro and it runs at 250 fsb 1:1 , timimgs 3- 4 -3 -7 , 1T
ok but not great i too would go for the 4400 stuff

But by this he means XMS3200 Pro, not to be confused with XMS3200XL Pro. The XL is TCCD, the standard Pro isn't.

andyr · 8 Jun 2005 at 20:26

Hi , sorry yes mine is the Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200XL Pro TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-050-CS) which is the tccd stuff , i am saving up for some Gskill 4800 top end stuff , i hope im not disapointed as i had the 4400 le before and that wasnt as good as my corsair but i managed to get a credit

kimandsally · 8 Jun 2005 at 20:31

Concorde Rules said:
YOu cant use DDR2, DDR only as AMD hasnt started suing DDR2 yet.

G-Skill LA, LE or FF, or Corsair (sorry dont know which version) with TCCD chips are whats hot atm.

Concorde

PS: Make sure you flash with the latest BIOS!

Hi just noticed this [AMD hasnt started suing DDR2 yet.]

I wasn't aware of this happening

chompaz · 8 Jun 2005 at 21:32

So whats the opinion then:

Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200XL Pro TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-050-CS)

or

Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200XL XPERT TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-076-CS)

or

Corsair 1GB DDR XMS4400C25PT TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2.5 (TWINX1024-4400C25PT) (MY-068-CS)

The 4400 stuff is none pro and Overclockers dont state it as TCCD in their description but it is TCCD right??

How come the 3200 stuff is more expensive than th ebetter clocking 4400 stuff only difference I can see is latency being 2 on the 3200 instead of 2.5 on the 4400.

smids · 8 Jun 2005 at 21:35

Not sure. All 3 are TCCD though. Go for the cheapest?

andyr · 8 Jun 2005 at 22:05

id try the Corsair 1GB DDR XMS4400C25PT TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2.5 (TWINX1024-4400C25PT) (MY-068-CS) as you should at least get 275 out of it and it is cheaper ,i dont think you will get tighter timings out of the 3200 stuff unless you get a different brand maybe

Jimbo Mahoney · 9 Jun 2005 at 09:57

Hey guys,

If people could try out this spreadsheet for working out optimal Tref, that would be great!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.waynewright/Tref.xls

Input your refresh period (if you know it) OR your memory stick size.

Then input your memory speed and it will give an ideal Tref.

Just use the closest option in the BIOS.

Generally speaking:

Too high Tref = memory not refreshed enough = data loss

Too low Tref = memory refreshed too often = unnecessary power / heat / stability issues.

kimandsally · 9 Jun 2005 at 11:40

Jimbo Mahoney said:
Hey guys,

If people could try out this spreadsheet for working out optimal Tref, that would be great!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.waynewright/Tref.xls

Input your refresh period (if you know it) OR your memory stick size.

Then input your memory speed and it will give an ideal Tref.

Just use the closest option in the BIOS.

Generally speaking:

Too high Tref = memory not refreshed enough = data loss

Too low Tref = memory refreshed too often = unnecessary power / heat / stability issues.

Hi below is a page from dfi street.
1552= 100mhz(?.?us)
2064= 133mhz(?.?us)
2592= 166mhz(?.?us)
3120= 200mhz(?.?us)
---------------------
3632= 100mhz(?.?us)
4128= 133mhz(?.?us)
4672= 166mhz(?.?us)
0064= 200mhz(?.?us)
---------------------
0776= 100mhz(?.?us)
1032= 133mhz(?.?us)
1296= 166mhz(?.?us)
1560= 200mhz(?.?us)
---------------------
1816= 100mhz(?.?us)
2064= 133mhz(?.?us)
2336= 166mhz(?.?us)
0032= 200mhz(?.?us)
---------------------
0388= 100mhz(15.6us)
0516= 133mhz(15.6us)
0648= 166mhz(15.6us)
0780= 200mhz(15.6us)
---------------------
0908= 100mhz(7.8us)
1032= 133mhz(7.8us)
1168= 166mhz(7.8us)
0016= 200mhz(7.8us)
---------------------
1536= 100mhz(3.9us)
2048= 133mhz(3.9us)
2560= 166mhz(3.9us)
3072= 200mhz(3.9us)
---------------------
3684= 100mhz(1.95us)
4196= 133mhz(1.95us)
4708= 166mhz(1.95us)
0128= 200mhz(1.95us)

Could you explain some parts that I don't understand?

If we take this for example.
1536= 100mhz(3.9us)

And we use 1536= 100mhz(3.9us) how does this compare to 3684= 100mhx(1.96us)
The bit I don't understand is I can see quite clearly that 1536 is lower than 3684 but what relationship is the 1.95us to 3.9us?

FreeStream · 9 Jun 2005 at 13:18

Jimbo Mahoney said:
Hey guys,

If people could try out this spreadsheet for working out optimal Tref, that would be great!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.waynewright/Tref.xls

Input your refresh period (if you know it) OR your memory stick size.

Then input your memory speed and it will give an ideal Tref.

Just use the closest option in the BIOS.

Generally speaking:

Too high Tref = memory not refreshed enough = data loss

Too low Tref = memory refreshed too often = unnecessary power / heat / stability issues.

Mine came out as 1132, I have it set at 1168

Good work m8 if it really works!

Concorde

smids · 9 Jun 2005 at 13:30

Nice one Jimbo - I read your post on Xtreme and didnt really follow it too well - but this simplifies it completely

[timko] · 9 Jun 2005 at 15:39

Jimbo Mahoney said:
Input your refresh period (if you know it) OR your memory stick size.

Where might users find information regarding the refresh period of their RAM?

I know it isn't necessary to know since you offer the alternative of entering memory size instead but I would just like to know

[timko] · 9 Jun 2005 at 15:43

chompaz said:
How come the 3200 stuff is more expensive than th ebetter clocking 4400 stuff only difference I can see is latency being 2 on the 3200 instead of 2.5 on the 4400.

Just so you know, there have previously been a number of users experiencing initial difficulties in getting the Corsair 4400 sticks to work with DFI NF4 boards. Most of the users got their problems sorted whilst some just gave up and bought other RAM instead

smids · 9 Jun 2005 at 16:43

[timko] said:
Where might users find information regarding the refresh period of their RAM?

I know it isn't necessary to know since you offer the alternative of entering memory size instead but I would just like to know

Everest Home Edition. v2 should tell you.

Clicky

I'll get back to you on where to look.

Ok - Motherboard > SPD - then look down the list. Both my TCCD and BH-5 are 7.8 micro seconds.

[timko] · 9 Jun 2005 at 18:32

Thanks Smidders.

My OCZ Rev.2 appear to be 7.8us as well

FreeStream · 9 Jun 2005 at 19:27

7.8us me too.

If I keep getting the same BSOD, every few days even tho everything else is fine, im testing with folding @ Home atm to really test it. However if its the same BSOD everytime (sorry didnt get the code, im so stupid for not righting it down

), is there something wrong with my system otehr that the CPU/memory?

Concorde

Edit: its TRAP_CAUSE_UNKNOWN.

I tried lowering my vocre to 1.475V it booted into windows but gave me a IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL when just enetering the desktop.