Well the way I see it is Im not gonna u/g again until dual core is here (mobo, ddr2 ram?!?, pro) - so say 18months for it to be here in good supply with good mobos to take care of it.
Im unsure how good Venice will be - isnt just with SSE3 implemented and strained silicon throughout the family? With how 05 chips are overclocking, Venice may not o/c much more then these week 40's Winnie.
Im happy to be proven wrong - just dont make me buy one..yet...
EDIT: Ricco - what kinda o/c do u think I could get on air - worth me considering water cooling? From what Ive seen Winnies seem to o/c exceptionally well on air in comparison to water which only does a bit better - guess its quieter tho...
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