****Official Doom 4 Thread****
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Soldato
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Wondering if its morally wrong to buy on steam to try it for 2 hrs, use the refund feature and either leave it or buy on a cd key site if i liked it
Wish demos were still a thing
Wish demos were still a thing
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Steam support will keep a record of each and every refund, and they explicitly state that they don't want you to abuse the system: http://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/ . If they see a pattern of refunds just before the 2 hour mark, it will likely result in their reluctance to refund future games. That said, simply not liking a game is still a legitimate reason for requesting a refund.
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Just played my first 30 minutes of Doom.
It's very fluid, the motion is really smooth. I really like how the movement feels, and how you can run around the place with ease.
The bad points for me so far are that the sound is terrible. The shotgun sounds so weak, monsters are roaring, but it feels like they are in another room or something, it's dull and muted. And lastly, there is no indication of when you are hit. I was running around shooting like crazy, thought I was doing brilliant, then I got a low health warning, didn't even realise I had been shot at all.
It's very fluid, the motion is really smooth. I really like how the movement feels, and how you can run around the place with ease.
The bad points for me so far are that the sound is terrible. The shotgun sounds so weak, monsters are roaring, but it feels like they are in another room or something, it's dull and muted. And lastly, there is no indication of when you are hit. I was running around shooting like crazy, thought I was doing brilliant, then I got a low health warning, didn't even realise I had been shot at all.
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Don’t think you get the double barrel shotgun that early do you? That sounds proper, not that the more modern auto shotgun isn’t pretty meaty sounding anyway (at least on my audio system!) – As for the notifications when receiving damage, this is Doom, it’s not gonna point out where damage is coming from 
You gotta be on your toes at all times.
You gotta be on your toes at all times.
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The trick is not to get hit at all 
All the weapons are projectiles that are slow enough to avoid. There's nobody shooting bullets at you that instantly hit you.
All the weapons are projectiles that are slow enough to avoid. There's nobody shooting bullets at you that instantly hit you.
Soldato
I agree with melmac - I really miss the Doom Guy pain grunts 
The feedback of taking damage is really poor.
The feedback of taking damage is really poor.
Soldato
This. I'm on lv9 on hurt me plenty and so far hardly get hit at all. It's one of the easiest games I have ever played. You just jump around blasting demons to bits in one shot with the gauss rifle until it runs out and then switch to rockets. Earlier on I got the 3 shot burst for the shotgun which pretty much rekt everything in its path. Running out of ammo? whip out the chainsaw to regenerate all your ammo. If you do get hit you just do a glory kill and you're magically back to full health. It might not have regenerating health in the traditional sense, but it sort of does as glory kills are so easy to do.
Still a lot of fun, but I should have put it on the highest difficulty when i started. i'll probably do another playthrough on one of the unlocked harder difficulties.
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I played on Ultra violence and didn't have many problems.
Nightmare is a bit more of a challenge. The health you get from glory kills isn't huge and the damage you take is big.
Although hurt me plenty did seem a little too easy at times, I do prefer to start off with a more normal / medium difficulty as you can always crank up the challenge for another playthrough.
My favourite method of increasing game difficulty was, for example, done with Quake 1: simply more enemies (instead of having to pump a ridiculous amount of ammo into an adversary). Works very well, imo - but is something you don't often see now. Seems that way.
My favourite method of increasing game difficulty was, for example, done with Quake 1: simply more enemies (instead of having to pump a ridiculous amount of ammo into an adversary). Works very well, imo - but is something you don't often see now. Seems that way.
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Soldato
I must be crap then as I have not finished it and find it quite a challenge on Hurt me plenty mode. I didn't get a chance to play over the weekend though and I don't want to finish this soon either. I am taking my time and relishing the level design and game play.
Soldato
The only enemy that was a little difficult was the shielded soldiers as the usual trick of lobbing a nade behind them didnt seem to work in this game. Then I found out the chainsaw just one shots them with ease 
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I'll deffo be playing through again on a harder difficulty. I usually always play through games on medium first so I can relax a bit and enjoy the story/explore etc. But in this game the levels are a bit barren and theres virtually no story, so i should have just gone with the challenge straight away.
On Doom 3 when I got to some shield or health it was a relief, a bit like getting to a save room in resident Evil. But in this game when I find some armour i'm always full lol. Them health stations on the wall have been virtually untouched.
Hurt me plenty should be called Missed me, missed me now you've got to kiss me
. I'll deffo be playing through again on a harder difficulty. I usually always play through games on medium first so I can relax a bit and enjoy the story/explore etc. But in this game the levels are a bit barren and theres virtually no story, so i should have just gone with the challenge straight away.
On Doom 3 when I got to some shield or health it was a relief, a bit like getting to a save room in resident Evil. But in this game when I find some armour i'm always full lol. Them health stations on the wall have been virtually untouched.
Hurt me plenty should be called Missed me, missed me now you've got to kiss me
Even though I found 'hurt me plenty' to be quite easy, there were some moments that took a few attempts to succeed such as boss fights, which I've never been a fan of in games. I prefer the 'normal' enemies that you fight in the corridors / areas of hell, but even so, for a change I actually enjoyed the boss battles in this game, which is a rarity for me.
Soldato
I'm getting old though and my reactions are not quite what they once were! I am stuck trying to get one of the runes. The one where you have to kill three demons and finish them from above. I get two then run out of time or die.
I've aged considerably in the last few years. Before, I was a very healthy, slim individual, where as now I look like a toad. The lowering of testosterone doesn't help either.
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Soldato
Of course you can get a refund. Games are no different then an uncomfortable pair of trainers.
Don’t think you get the double barrel shotgun that early do you? That sounds proper, not that the more modern auto shotgun isn’t pretty meaty sounding anyway (at least on my audio system!) – As for the notifications when receiving damage, this is Doom, it’s not gonna point out where damage is coming from
If this really is Doom, then where is the grunts when you take damage? I am not talking about getting a direction, but, you should know when you are been hit. You should also be able to tell where the enemies are with sound, but, in this, the sound is all over the place.
It's just the one thing that stood out for me on my first 30 minutes of play. The sound quality isn't that good.
Yeah but that wasn't the full question, I mean you wouldn't return the trainers to one shop and then buy the exact same pair from another shop would you?
He was saying he may get a refund and then if he likes the game buy it from a key site and register that on steam, I'm not sure if its something they look for or would care about as a one off, but its an interesting question.
Hmm, actually the question seems to be whether its morally wrong rather than whether steam will care, who knows?
Personally I'm happy with the sounds, (guns monsters etc.). But I do agree that I'd have liked some kind of sound to make it more obvious when you are taking damage.
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