**** Official Fallout 76 Thread ****
Man of Honour
So...player vending is supposed to be going live this week. One related change is that every camp with a powered vending machine is visible on the main map. That will change things. Also, the items you put in your vending machine stay in your stash until sold, so they still take up stash space. That makes vending machines less useful, but it's a change.
The same patch will start to bring in the idea of trading legendary items. The way it's being done makes sense, but I think it will have unintended consequences. The way it works is that you trade in legendary items for currency that the legendary vendor will accept. That makes sense. However...the transaction is handled by vending machines and there will be one at every train station. I think Whitespring will become even more of an anomaly than it is already. It's by far the best source of legendary items and there's a station right next door. Farm the golf club, cottages/chalets and laundry building, get a dozen or more legendary items, go to station, get a wad of legendary scrip. It's going to be very crowded there, even more so than it already is. If the cost of buying legendaries is balanced for Whitespring, they will be too expensive to buy without farming Whitespring. If it's balanced for ordinary play, farming Whitespring will allow a player to buy the very best legendary kit in a fairly short amount of time.
The same patch will start to bring in the idea of trading legendary items. The way it's being done makes sense, but I think it will have unintended consequences. The way it works is that you trade in legendary items for currency that the legendary vendor will accept. That makes sense. However...the transaction is handled by vending machines and there will be one at every train station. I think Whitespring will become even more of an anomaly than it is already. It's by far the best source of legendary items and there's a station right next door. Farm the golf club, cottages/chalets and laundry building, get a dozen or more legendary items, go to station, get a wad of legendary scrip. It's going to be very crowded there, even more so than it already is. If the cost of buying legendaries is balanced for Whitespring, they will be too expensive to buy without farming Whitespring. If it's balanced for ordinary play, farming Whitespring will allow a player to buy the very best legendary kit in a fairly short amount of time.
Like most things 76 related its just not very well implemented. More half measures, minimal cost to develop instead of real changes within the game world. The 10% tax is also laughable I mean who benefits from that Bethesda
Yesterdays daily included a 10 Atom challenge where 2 players must have bought the VTU costume (conveniently reduced to 480 Atoms last night
in a flash sale!) so to earn 10 Atoms you must spend 480 Atoms (or 800 Atoms when it goes back to full price later today!Seems to be the way the game is heading constant microtransactions for cosmetics & very limited new content. All the new content is so weak & lacking depth. They just amount to events & challenges higher level players can breeze through in a few minutes.
For sure I will not be selling anything in the Player vendor machine as it also drives players to your CAMP so vastly increases the chance of you getting constant you cannot play your camp on this server messages if they like your placement & layout
Bethesda confirmed yesterday that the T60 Sentinel Paintjob reward for turning in Technical Data is not supposed to be ingame (someone stole it from the developer room). The turning in Technical Data rewards are T60 power armour paint jobs BOS1,2,3,4,5 & 6 only.
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Man of Honour
Like most things 76 related its just not very well implemented. More half measures, minimal cost to develop instead of real changes within the game world. The 10% tax is also laughable I mean who benefits from that Bethesda
Realism, I suppose, sort of.
Yesterdays daily included a 10 Atom challenge where 2 players must have bought the VTU costume (conveniently reduced to 480 Atoms last night
Bethesda is looking pretty desperate in its attempts to manipulate players into paying real money for in-game cosmetic items. The camp stuff is particularly dumb - they make the building budget so low that every thing must be considered in terms of how much budget it uses, even just placing a pot plant, then they seem to think that people will pay dozens of dollars on mediocre decorative camp items that would have been a decent start as a "my first small mod" in previous Bethesda games, available for free.
I did the much-hyped Burrows "DLC" in under 10 minutes and I wasn't rushing and I am nowhere near optimised for the current "balance". By previous Bethesda game standards, it would have been a good small new area mod.
For sure I will not be selling anything in the Player vendor machine as it also drives players to your CAMP so vastly increases the chance of you getting constant you cannot play your camp on this server messages if they like your placement & layout
I hadn't thought of that, but you're right. I get that quite a lot now unless I log in late at night, so I certainly dont't want it any more. I can't blueprint my settlement (a feature in FO76 that doesn't work and is inferior to mods on previous Bethesda games - what a surprise!) and it's a lot of trouble to rebuild it, so I'm stuck with repeated server hopping until my camp can be placed. I certainly wouldn't want that to happen more often.
I now have 68 useless technical data. The quest never triggered for me. Fortunately I don't care about paint jobs for armour I'm not using anyway. I'm sticking with Excavator power armour. Coal dust black now, which I like.
Anyway...I have a couple of questions:
1) In order to do the repair and mod challenges, I need about a bazillion units of adhesive. I've been selling it to vendors for a while now, keeping only about 200 in my stash for repairing my equipment. Now I have none. There's no way I can set up a useful adhesive farm - I have neither the space nor the building budget. With the budget I have left, I could possibly make as much as 10 adhesive per hour from the farm I could make. Probably not even that much. So I'm after places where I can forage large quantities of the materials needed. Corn is no problem - there's an old farm in the forest area where a player with green thumb on can forage ~200 units of corn. Mutfruit and tatoes are the issue. Do you know of any locations with lots of mutfruit and tatoes? I want dozens or hundreds at a time because it's an inefficient way to make adhesive. IIRC it's 2 corn, 2 tatoes, 3 mutfruit and 2 water to make 1 starch which makes 2 adhesive.
2) Is it just me or has the rate at which power armour drains fusion cores been increased a lot recently? For the first time ever, I've equipped the power user perk because I was rapidly running down my stock of fusion cores despite gathering more as I played and I could see the cores draining even when walking.
1: You harvest them by growing them in the ground!
So harvest mutfruit & tatoes cultivate them & pick when they are ready. Otherwise its scav the wasteland or buy in bulk from vendors @ 200 ish Caps per 10. I scav for mine (you can get about 30-40 per hour hits way but its really inefficient & you need to visit the same old places many other players visit so the chances of someone else taking before you are high) & sometimes buy from vendors but recently just decided to do the repair challenges as & when I get them done whenever that may be. Spent over 1000 caps buying bulk aluminium & adhesive to repair a few rifles for the challenge it takes forever I am only 48\76 after 6 months regular play so for 40 Atoms 2: Its not just you the drain is way higher than before
Even with Power User 3 I am rapidly running out fast which is a big problem as I am only a Power Armour build some players say the charge from running is the issue I am not so sure think Bethesda nerfed them without saying or just plain broke them due to yet another failed dev build merge between versions as many other older previously fixed bugs are back like not being able to fast travel after getting killed (no locations on the map except vault 76).Had a variation of that the other day. Had captured the ammo plant and was making a bit of 5.56 as well as mining lead (to make more 5.56) and someone tried to take it over and lobbed a mini nuke where I was making some ammo. Killed...
Couldn't respawn anywhere, even Vault 76 was a no go. Had to quit to main menu and connect again.
Also had the no radiation in a nuke zone bug again yesterday. This time at Harpers Ferry.
Man of Honour
1: You harvest them by growing them in the ground!
Not useful.
There are locations where mutfruit and tatoes grow wild in the gameworld. I was asking if anyone knew where they were. I said, very clearly, that I could not grow anywhere near enough in my camp because I don't have the space or the building budget. Forage, not farm. Unless you're suggesting that I scrap my entire camp to replace it with an adhesive farm, your reply is not a reply. Since it takes me hours to build my camp and I can't blueprint it (I stated that in my post too), I'm not willing to do that.
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2: Its not just you the drain is way higher than before
It's not running - I checked for that. I'm not running more than I used to and the drain is still very fast when I don't run at all. I did wonder if it was because I fitted the calibrated shocks mod to the legs of my excavator armour, but I removed those legs and replaced them with newly made unmodified legs and the only difference it made was in the noise when I hit the ground after falling.
I think you're probably right with your suggestion of yet another failed dev build merge. I guess the only devs left working on FO76 are trainees assigned to it whenever they have a few minutes to cobble something together without enough time to do the job properly.
Be very careful around capturing workshops it makes you vulnerable to instant death even in Adventure mode with Pacifist on. Still not patched so you can lose a load of caps & junk which is what happened to me the other day!
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I encountered my first genuininely impressive PvP player (in Adventure mode).
(I was more impressed than the usual ones who just one-shot everything - this guy seemed intelligent / interesting):
Level 84, non-power armour user.
He would deliberately put a decent bounty on his head by attacking a camp (e.g. until he reached about 150 caps or so - enough to entice other players like me to him).
Sitting around 30% health, and starting from the point where I am invulnerable to his attacks (he's Wanted and we're in Adventure mode), I could NOT kill him or even make a decent dent in his health.
I tried Gatling gun with all perks + Nerd Rage, which would have put around 5 or so rounds of about 200 dmg each into him (remember he's sitting at ~30% health with no PA). It looked like it scratched him. He killed me almost instantaneously with some sort of machine gun perhaps (I'm not good at recognising other player's weapons).
I tried again, this time with Grognak's Executioner's Axe (+50% damage) + Nerd Rage + All 2-hand perks (around 600 dmg maybe?) and used power strikes against him - similar result. Barely a scratch and I died pretty fast.
Another player was nearby and they had been chatting on area mode, so they seemed to be "friendly" towards one another, so he tried for a laugh - a plasma mine and a mini-nuke. That finally killed him.
He immediately respawned and put a bounty on his head with a nearby camp.
I didn't try any more!
How on earth does he get so much DMG resistance? Especially at such a (relatively) low level? I guess he's been buying items, as he doesn't have the playtime to have accumulated so much gear "naturally"?
I'm working on getting mine up and quite enjoying Dodgy, Serendipity and Assassin's armour, but I'm still VERY squishy in PvP. I've also got ALL the decent mutations (as per previous screenshot).
I've recently maxed out my Enclave under armour, which was the only decent thing I could find to use my stash of flux on.
(I was more impressed than the usual ones who just one-shot everything - this guy seemed intelligent / interesting):
Level 84, non-power armour user.
He would deliberately put a decent bounty on his head by attacking a camp (e.g. until he reached about 150 caps or so - enough to entice other players like me to him).
Sitting around 30% health, and starting from the point where I am invulnerable to his attacks (he's Wanted and we're in Adventure mode), I could NOT kill him or even make a decent dent in his health.
I tried Gatling gun with all perks + Nerd Rage, which would have put around 5 or so rounds of about 200 dmg each into him (remember he's sitting at ~30% health with no PA). It looked like it scratched him. He killed me almost instantaneously with some sort of machine gun perhaps (I'm not good at recognising other player's weapons).
I tried again, this time with Grognak's Executioner's Axe (+50% damage) + Nerd Rage + All 2-hand perks (around 600 dmg maybe?) and used power strikes against him - similar result. Barely a scratch and I died pretty fast.
Another player was nearby and they had been chatting on area mode, so they seemed to be "friendly" towards one another, so he tried for a laugh - a plasma mine and a mini-nuke. That finally killed him.
He immediately respawned and put a bounty on his head with a nearby camp.
I didn't try any more!
How on earth does he get so much DMG resistance? Especially at such a (relatively) low level? I guess he's been buying items, as he doesn't have the playtime to have accumulated so much gear "naturally"?
I'm working on getting mine up and quite enjoying Dodgy, Serendipity and Assassin's armour, but I'm still VERY squishy in PvP. I've also got ALL the decent mutations (as per previous screenshot).
I've recently maxed out my Enclave under armour, which was the only decent thing I could find to use my stash of flux on.
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@Jimbo Mahoney
On PC a lot of players are cheating somehow with scripts (to access the dev console) or other cheating assists is most likely why. Some examples were given to Bethesda on the official forums yet weeks later these same players are still playing like nothing has happened to them
Few days ago I was one shotted by someone who took all my junk & about 300 caps in Adventure mode. There is a known glitch yet to be patched whereby in Adventure mode if you claim a workshop or attack a camp it makes you vunerable to attack & instant death unless you quit to the main menu straight after
Instead of going into Survival mode these players block all users on the server they join in Adventure mode so they are invisible then proceed to farm players for easy caps & junk
There are also on PC a lot of players using alternate accounts (remember you can have up to 5 players on the same serial key on PC) to farm items & caps to pass to their main character. Last few days legendary drop rates have been increased a lot for the new upcoming Legendary vendor feature due 7th May (not sure where Bethesda think players can store all this gear until then).
On PC a lot of players are cheating somehow with scripts (to access the dev console) or other cheating assists is most likely why. Some examples were given to Bethesda on the official forums yet weeks later these same players are still playing like nothing has happened to them
Few days ago I was one shotted by someone who took all my junk & about 300 caps in Adventure mode. There is a known glitch yet to be patched whereby in Adventure mode if you claim a workshop or attack a camp it makes you vunerable to attack & instant death unless you quit to the main menu straight after
Instead of going into Survival mode these players block all users on the server they join in Adventure mode so they are invisible then proceed to farm players for easy caps & junk
There are also on PC a lot of players using alternate accounts (remember you can have up to 5 players on the same serial key on PC) to farm items & caps to pass to their main character. Last few days legendary drop rates have been increased a lot for the new upcoming Legendary vendor feature due 7th May (not sure where Bethesda think players can store all this gear until then
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How can they share items between characters? I didn't think that was possible?
Or did Bethesda add a Shared Stash between all characters? I only have one, so I don't know how it works, but I read that it wasn't possible...
Or did Bethesda add a Shared Stash between all characters? I only have one, so I don't know how it works, but I read that it wasn't possible...
Leave the item on the ground be logged in with your alt account on another PC installation and be at the same location at the same time I think is how it works! Either that or they buy cheap keys for alt characters so not bothered about getting banned anyway. Some are selling ultra rare items already for 30-40,000 Caps this is just insane
Finally, watch out for friendly female (they are probably not female either!) characters ingame some are just a honey trap to learn your camp location so they can then wreck it or ambush you
until Bethesda patch the camp DMG in adventure mode best to ignore random friend requests as no way to know if they are genuine or not!
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Finally, watch out for friendly female (they are probably not female either!) characters ingame some are just a honey trap to learn your camp location so they can then wreck it or ambush you
That's not good enough any more - there's a new bug or exploit that results in people being added to your friends list without your consent. I've had it happen at least 3 times. No effects as yet, but I've seen the "X is added to your friends list" notification. I haven't even looked at my "friends" list, so I don't know how many are on there.
I doubt if any players are killing other players for caps and junk. That's just not worth doing. A few dozen caps, some assorted junk, why bother? I think that players who are killing other players are more likely doing it because they're...unpleasant people, to put it politely.
I just sold almost all of my stable flux and almost all of my stabilising materials. I realised that the only flux I might use is violet flux for calibrated power armour legs, so I was just wasting ~15% of my stash limit on stuff I wasn't going to use.
How's this for silly - last night I spent >5 minutes just waiting outside Vault 76 because there was a L1 character in it and I wanted to take a photo of them to cross off 2 of the 10 photo requirements for a weekly challenge. I had just got to thinking "why am I doing this - it's not fun and a game is supposed to be fun" when my internet connection dropped. My ISP is cheap and nasty...and not particularly cheap, really. I'm only still with them through inertia.
Its not that silly I have done far worse ingame spending 8 hours photographing all the robots for that photo challenge
then finding out I could have done it all in 10 mins by doing an ingame event instead to get the cargo bot to land for long enough to photograph There is no end game apart from challenges & earning Atoms for cosmetics which should be free as most are clearly already in the game or very easy to alter via the editor tool Bethesda use.I picked up a magazine (1st time I had ever seen it in 6 months!) I needed yesterday as I did so the game hard locked up & every time I returned to the same spot it would lockup again & again. If only Bethesda would make some actual proper DLC ingame or add several underground vaults with proper missions. The actual Fallout game world environment is far better looking than ever its also quite a well made game streaming engine (when it does not crash!). Just needs another year or so of proper DLC like Far Harbour or Nuka World releases every 2-3 months.
The lure of free Atoms in challenges for cosmetics works it keeps many people playing for longer
but to be fair I got enough the last 2 weeks to buy the Nuka shine paint job for free which has a good looking solid gold X01 helmet but the hours & effort to earn those Atoms is just ridiculous Fallout 76 - the agony & the ecstasy t0rture the player for atoms edition
Lot of fixes in today's update & new content! Shame the new weight increase backpacks cannot be worn under Power Armour so no good to PA users like me!
https://fallout.bethesda.net/en/art...t-76-wild-appalachia-patch-9-notes-may-7-2019
https://fallout.bethesda.net/en/art...t-76-wild-appalachia-patch-9-notes-may-7-2019
Someone already just data mined the new patch & produced images of all the upcoming Atomic Shop cosmetic content! Some of it looks pretty good as well get saving or buying those Atoms
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comments/blrkwo/patch_05_new_atomshop_datamine/
get saving or buying those Atoms https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comments/blrkwo/patch_05_new_atomshop_datamine/
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Almost makes me want to try it again....expect I will download the patch, launch game, it will still lock up/crash in the same places, will turn it off again for a few months.
Almost makes me want to try it again....expect I will download the patch, launch game, it will still lock up/crash in the same places, will turn it off again for a few months.
Backpacks fine.
Pioneer scouts.. ok... more content is good.
Plasma weapon rebalance good.
Fixing the unruly golfers... really... taken you this long?
Not sure about the legendary scrip and the 30 slot limited player sales. Will need to build several to flog all the plans I have. Fully understand it being from the stash though.
Pioneer scouts.. ok... more content is good.
Plasma weapon rebalance good.
Fixing the unruly golfers... really... taken you this long?
Not sure about the legendary scrip and the 30 slot limited player sales. Will need to build several to flog all the plans I have. Fully understand it being from the stash though.
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You can have 4 shops open at once I am still worried about advertising my CAMP location as I have a really good spot if I start to sell Plans then someone could build their CAMP in my area. I only really need caps to buy all the ingame plans now in 5-6 weeks @ 1400 Caps per day I will have bought all possible Plans ingame anyway so no big deal to me unless they add new Plans & stuff to buy ingame.
I am more interested in some of those new Atomic Shop Excavator paintjobs & the 2 Mothmen masks with big glowing red eyes they look pretty cool