****Official GTX580 user reviews/benchmarking/overclocking thread****

[RavenXXX2]

They should have got a clue when people started calling and emailing them about the price, either way it's sloppy service and IMO deliberate.

 

[Metalface Mark]

How many calls and emails do you think a company that size get about products every day?

 

[555BUK]

the only people who lost out here are those who ordered their 580(s), got billed, were out of pocket for a while and now don't have their item(s). the jungle hasn't lost anything whatsoever. if anything people might have bought other items along with their 580, so they've done well out of this.

Unlike most other online retailers this company does not bill for orders until the items are physically dispatched. Nobody lost money, not even for a second. Nobody has lost out, people just did not gain from what appeared to have been, and turned out to be an error. I really don't understand why so many people are so annoyed about this. Move on.

 

[Skyrocket]

Lets get back to the topic.
The price quoted on these mysterious 580gtx was misleading.
If you thought you were going to get a 580gtx for £80 quid less than RRRP you were living in lala land.
But I very disappointed in Amazon over this tbh. They might of honored the price to a couple of people but I think the volume of cards ordered must have been staggering.

Been playing too much GT5 over last week but since getting rid of my POV 580GTX

I took an delivery of these puppies. 470GTX Twin Frozr II SLI for £360 delivered.

They are quieter and quicker than the 580gtx and about £20 cheaper.....

So much for the 485 GTX - 30% anyone?
580GTX @900/2350 vs 470 SLI 800/1750

These do warm you case up nicely though...

 

[jorzeh]

They did the same thing on Asus 460GTX how can they make the same mistake twice and the amount of phone calls they had over the one product also.. you're telling me they don't have a data logging system that auto flags up the product to higher managment.... Ye i'm so sure This was a ploy to get hits on there site you can see on there list "people who bought this item also bought Blah blah" So they prob removed the asus 580gtx and sent out the stuff like games people bought it was a ploy to get people onto the store you don't make the same mistake Twice with the same brand of card afew months apart.. 460 and now the 580..

 

[555BUK]

Forget about ploys and conspiracy theories to gain more hits. That website is already the most popular retailer in the UK. If they wanted to acquire more hits they would not choose a product that so few people would actually be interested in. >99.5% of the population would not dream of spending £300+ on a graphics card, so why would they search for one?

Now onto the post topic.

My vanilla Gainward GTX 580 specs as follows.
*Default volts: 1.037v
*Max stable OC @ Default volts: 860core / 4300mem
*Max stable OC with extra volts: 930core / 4300mem @ 1.1v
*Max benchable OC: 955core / 4400mem @ 1.137v (not stable).
*24/7 clocks: 875 / 4300mem @ 1.050v.

Going from 1.1v to 1.137 volts only gains a few MHz but increases heat by a lot.

 

[wuyanxu]

Forget about ploys and conspiracy theories to gain more hits. That website is already the most popular retailer in the UK. If they wanted to acquire more hits they would not choose a product that so few people would actually be interested in. >99.5% of the population would not dream of spending £300+ on a graphics card, so why would they search for one?

Now onto the post topic.

My vanilla Gainward GTX 580 specs as follows.
*Default volts: 1.037v
*Max stable OC @ Default volts: 860core / 4300mem
*Max stable OC with extra volts: 930core / 4300mem @ 1.1v
*Max benchable OC: 955core / 4400mem @ 1.137v (not stable).
*24/7 clocks: 875 / 4300mem @ 1.050v.

Going from 1.1v to 1.137 volts only gains a few MHz but increases heat by a lot.

many thanks for your overclocking results, what did you use to test for stability?

here's my current: not played with mem yet
*Default volts: 1.013v
*Max stable OC @ Default volts: 840core
*Max stable OC with extra volts: 900core @ 1.1v (1.088v passes EVGA OC scanner, but i see artifacts in Crysis)
*24/7 clocks: stock ATM.

 

[Metalface Mark]

Forget about ploys and conspiracy theories to gain more hits. That website is already the most popular retailer in the UK. If they wanted to acquire more hits they would not choose a product that so few people would actually be interested in. >99.5% of the population would not dream of spending £300+ on a graphics card, so why would they search for one?

Now onto the post topic.

My vanilla Gainward GTX 580 specs as follows.
*Default volts: 1.037v
*Max stable OC @ Default volts: 860core / 4300mem
*Max stable OC with extra volts: 930core / 4300mem @ 1.1v
*Max benchable OC: 955core / 4400mem @ 1.137v (not stable).
*24/7 clocks: 875 / 4300mem @ 1.050v.

Going from 1.1v to 1.137 volts only gains a few MHz but increases heat by a lot.

What do you use for overclocking bud? Want to get fired straght in tonight for 3d gaming goodness, i think ill need all the extra i can get!

 

[Gibbo]

You shouldnt be, its the nature of the beast with an obvious misprice, yet it happens time and time again, some you win, some you lose, but people still get outraged that they are not getting their goods. It wouldnt have been intentional (despite what gibbo thinks), its not the kind of thing people buy from these places very often which is why misprices can occur, to someone on the outside, they see a graphics card at £300 and think, blimey thats expensive while geeks like us see an obvious misprice and take a chance.

Sorry, but I think it was very intentional, imagine the traffic it sent towards their site, amazon is not the only company guilty of doing this kind of activity on purpose it happens.

I am also confident they did this on purpose because I was right on the phone to Asus, who were then right on the phone to Amazon, yet by some miracle it took them days to rectify even after both Asus and Nvidia had informed them of their error.

I think that was done on purpose.

 

[GJ02]

lol nice one gibbo
on what day did you call asus ?
why did you call asus btw ?

 

[MDPlatts]

lol nice one gibbo
on what day did you call asus ?
why did you call asus btw ?

Probably a "why are you selling them such cheap hardware that they can sell it at that to the end users - can I have some too at that price?? - you're putting me out of business"

 

[GJ02]

i wasnt being funny btw
im amazed, that gibbo said asus and nvidia were called and yet they still kept it up for nearly 5 days
that was the 1st and last time i used them

also

wife just put a big stop to me buying another ! bloody women !!!!

 

[jorzeh]

Probably a "why are you selling them such cheap hardware that they can sell it at that to the end users - can I have some too at that price?? - you're putting me out of business"

+1

I'm looking for a 580gtx at the moment i'm not sure ATI will suit my needs as recording boss kills in WOW really reqs a nice nvidia card and i'm sick of this micro stutter in wow with my 4870x2 ATI and wow don't mix

P.S can ony one run WOW @ 1980x1200 8AA with a lot of people around n screen shot the fps : ) ? say in the new SW i wanna compare ^^

 

[555BUK]

What do you use for overclocking bud? Want to get fired straght in tonight for 3d gaming goodness, i think ill need all the extra i can get!

Google Afterburner 2.1.0 beta4. This is the best overclocking tool currently available.

 

[Gibbo]

lol nice one gibbo
on what day did you call asus ?
why did you call asus btw ?

To basically say what on earth is going on, Asus and NVIDIA in complete agreement and had also recieved many other complaints from others as well.

So Amazon were fully aware of what they were doing, its not like enough people rang up. Manufacturers rang product managers/buyers at Amazon to inform.

Customers rang Amazon to check price.

Really if thats not a deliberate mistake then they must employ monkeys.

 

[GJ02]

what were they to gain tho ?
traffic to their site and the hope of people buying other bits too ?

 

[555BUK]

Sorry, but I think it was very intentional, imagine the traffic it sent towards their site, amazon is not the only company guilty of doing this kind of activity on purpose it happens.

I am also confident they did this on purpose because I was right on the phone to Asus, who were then right on the phone to Amazon, yet by some miracle it took them days to rectify even after both Asus and Nvidia had informed them of their error.

I think that was done on purpose.

I usually agree with what you say but in this case I disagree. This GTX580 shot up to sales rank 204. That means there were 200 products that outsold it. If ****** wanted to draw attention to itself, they would misprice a product that lots of people would have interest in (Toy Story 3 for example). Why target the very specific bunch of nerdy computer geeks who will blow >£300 on a graphics card when they already see 10million UK hits a day. No offense intended, I own a GTX580.

 

[Gibbo]

I usually agree with what you say but in this case I disagree. This GTX580 shot up to sales rank 204. That means there were 200 products that outsold it. If ****** wanted to draw attention to itself, they would misprice a product that lots of people would have interest in (Toy Story 3 for example). Why target the very specific bunch of nerdy computer geeks who will blow >£300 on a graphics card when they already see 10million UK hits a day. No offense intended, I own a GTX580.

Don't Amazon list over 100,000 products, if not more?

You say it was ranked 204, based on the amount of products they list on a product they would not normally sell, I'd say thats pretty damn impressive.

Why would they mis-price a product like Toy Story 3, don't they already have the attention of that type of customer?

Sorry Amazon are not known for components, they wanted to give themselves some exposure, this would have done that, so they suceed at that goal, but I'd certainly not think its a good way to go about it.

Am sorry but I don't believe for one moment this is my mistake and thats my personal oppinion. Their components/graphics buyer would have had sales staff internally informing them of this mistake when customers rang, they'd have had asus/nvidia on the phone informing them of the mistake, yet it still took how many days to correct? Wheras changing a price takes what, less than 60 seconds.

Having worked in this industry having 10 years plus experience and knowing the tricks and ways business work, its of my personal oppinion I think this was not a mistake.

 

[Metalface Mark]

Really if thats not a deliberate mistake then they must employ monkeys.

I think that's more than the likely cause

 

[555BUK]

It only got close to the top 200 because it was mispriced and forums such as this indirectly promoted it (I know this is against forum rules, but I didn't do it). You will not find a GTX580 in their top 10000 now It was a mistake, similar to mistakes OcUK and most other retailers have made in the past. Graphics cards are not this companies core business and never will be.

edit: I remeber ordering an 8800 Ultra stupidly cheap from OcUK. After not receiving it within a few days I called to enquire why and was told it was a misprice. Fair enough, I expected this when I ordered. The fact is that if companies such a OcUK who specialise in computer compoments can make a simple error, so can companies that do not specialise and who process tens of thousands of items per day and take hundreds of thousands of orders.

We have our own opinions, but can you imagine the trouble this company would get into if they were found to be deliberately misleading the public in order to increase their "dominant" position? They would need to be incredibly stupid to do this on purpose.

Why promote themselves and risk bad PR/backlash when EVERYONE who shops on the inetenet already knows who they are?