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A friend who owns it said you can still unlock while playing MP, just...you need to unlock it still 
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Yep it looks like things are not going well with BOS
Forcing SP grind to get the unlocks
Threatening to cancel development all together if people dont start posting glowing reviews on metacritic .....
It has all gone Pete Tong
The game itself (now released) is more like war thunder arcade style action and less like the sim we were told it would be sadly
There's no way this is seeing any of my money. I didn't have high hopes from the outset after the CLOD disaster. One thing I have learned in life is to trust your gut instinct 99% of the time. My guts were right again. Good old guts.
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Damn right, I already did that with CLOD. The worst release I have ever seen. Even worse than Rome 2.
No unlocks only come from SP, it is just you can use them in MP after you unlocked them in SP.
I dont get the fuss about unlocks tbh -they are just skins and "upgrades" to the planes that have more downsides than benefits (like bigger canons that make yu heavier and thus slower and less maneuverable).
The big problem is SP which they talked about all along ("90% of users care about SP only") and its rubbish. No briefings, no medals, no promotions, no squadrons, randomly generated sparsely populated missions with no connection to each other... Very poor.
But the actual flying and shooting is brilliant, graphics are nice, FM/DM are top notch, sound is great, atmosphere is very good. Which is why it is such a crying shame that all these elements are not combined into a GAME.
I dont get the fuss about unlocks tbh -they are just skins and "upgrades" to the planes that have more downsides than benefits (like bigger canons that make yu heavier and thus slower and less maneuverable).
The big problem is SP which they talked about all along ("90% of users care about SP only") and its rubbish. No briefings, no medals, no promotions, no squadrons, randomly generated sparsely populated missions with no connection to each other... Very poor.
But the actual flying and shooting is brilliant, graphics are nice, FM/DM are top notch, sound is great, atmosphere is very good. Which is why it is such a crying shame that all these elements are not combined into a GAME.
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This is a much better release than CLOD, the game works fine, there are no show stopping bugs, no stuttering frame rates, cutting out sounds, completely wrong physcis.. like I say the core of IL2:stalingrad is pretty fantastic! The only massive downside is the single player content
More like 40+ hours as some have had the time to do it
Certainly a very "realistic" flight model they got going on ............
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This is a much better release than CLOD, the game works fine, there are no show stopping bugs, no stuttering frame rates, cutting out sounds, completely wrong physcis.. like I say the core of IL2:stalingrad is pretty fantastic! The only massive downside is the single player content
Ok, I'll take your word for it, that's a ton of money for a weak SP game though. Which is pretty much what i'd have time for, perhaps the best thing for me is to wait for it to mature and maybe there will be some good used created campaigns.
Real plane @13:21 http://youtu.be/h1qSzCnzXvY?t=13m21s
CLOD http://youtu.be/fXcjUz65fFA
DCS http://youtu.be/Kt2FDPB33TY
IL2:Stalingrad has as good flight physics as there is, their engineer was the inventor of DCS AFM after all.
I wish they spent at least 10% of their time and effort on the game part as opposed to FMs.
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The BoS one looks really off, like it does stuff too robotically if that makes sense, and it's low speed maneuverability seems unrealistic there.
Also, the AFM is terribad for some aircraft, PFM is where it's at
PFM is just a rebrand of AFM - A10C, P51 and Ka50 had AFM and last year it became PFM without any changes in physics code. you are confusing with SFM from DCS Flaming Cliffs- that is terribad, AFM=PFM is still the pinnacle of flight sims.
BOS
DCS
IL2:stalingrad has actually more features in its AFM- like ground and flack explosions have shockways which affect airflow, also it has wake turbulence that affect trailing aircraft. DCS AFM/PFM lacks these. Basically, physics is a massive plus and not something to criticise BOS for, no one does it better.
Generic single player, sterile empty world- these are the real minuses, but not physics.
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IL2:stalingrad has actually more features in its AFM- like ground and flack explosions have shockways which affect airflow, also it has wake turbulence that affect trailing aircraft. DCS AFM/PFM lacks these. Basically, physics is a massive plus and not something to criticise BOS for, no one does it better.
Generic single player, sterile empty world- these are the real minuses, but not physics.
They are continuing to work on the campaign, so not all is lost yet:
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[/QUOTE][quote author=Juri_JS link=topic=43182.msg485878#msg485878 date=1414346997]
I noticed some cool stuff when I returned from a successful Pe-2 night bombing mission in the campaign.
When I approached my airfield I saw flares.
They were fired by one of the searchlight crews.
When I came closer the fires along the runway were lit and the searchlights illuminated the touchdown point.
The firing of flares stopped when I started my landing approach.
On the ground my mechanic Kolya was already waiting for me.
Very atmospheric and a good example of what can be achieved by the use of triggers.
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I guess I will have to actually fly it myself before complaining
But it really looks like the BOS aircraft doing a roll doesn't sink when banked nor does it seem to need to increase it's angle of attack to remain at altitude inverted.
But again, I have no idea what the person flying is doing with the joystick or what it looked like from inside so....yeah, I'll hold my tongue for now!
As for wake turbulence and all that, I'll believe it when I see it, there's something about this game that doesn't look right when you compare all the other silly stuff. I'm not saying I don't believe a game can have that stuff, that's alright but if it ACTUALLY went ahead and added it? I can't find any videos :<
edit: However I will say, I've seen some 109 combat stuff that looked really good! Maybe this is just some oddities, you can find that stuff in DCS too.
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@ChrisJSY , you might want to wait until a cheaper version comes out lest you be
left feeling that it was not money well spent
There are some rumours going about regarding people being paid to talk up the game and try to silence anyone pointing out the games flaws
The whole reviewgate debacle that happened a few weeks ago defo pointed out some strange and unsettling behaviour from this company
left feeling that it was not money well spent
There are some rumours going about regarding people being paid to talk up the game and try to silence anyone pointing out the games flaws
The whole reviewgate debacle that happened a few weeks ago defo pointed out some strange and unsettling behaviour from this company
I guess I will have to actually fly it myself before complaining
But it really looks like the BOS aircraft doing a roll doesn't sink when banked nor does it seem to need to increase it's angle of attack to remain at altitude inverted.
But again, I have no idea what the person flying is doing with the joystick or what it looked like from inside so....yeah, I'll hold my tongue for now!
As for wake turbulence and all that, I'll believe it when I see it, there's something about this game that doesn't look right when you compare all the other silly stuff. I'm not saying I don't believe a game can have that stuff, that's alright but if it ACTUALLY went ahead and added it? I can't find any videos :<
edit: However I will say, I've seen some 109 combat stuff that looked really good! Maybe this is just some oddities, you can find that stuff in DCS too.
Here are shockwave physics from ROF and BOS is running the same physics engine.
If anyone is thinking of buying this game , I would wait and see
If it wasn't bad enough that you have to grind in SP to get "unlocks"
You are flying the "campaign" to grind and get the unlocks but the damn game crashes after you have completed the objective and before you have a chance to land ...... very disheartening to say the least
I hope they get these bugs sorted out soon
If it wasn't bad enough that you have to grind in SP to get "unlocks"
You are flying the "campaign" to grind and get the unlocks but the damn game crashes after you have completed the objective and before you have a chance to land ...... very disheartening to say the least
I hope they get these bugs sorted out soon
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Another update regarding IL2 BOS management
"reviewgate" post for reference (it as taken down)
Seems things are not rosey over the 777
http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/10/il-2-sturmovik-exec-unprofessional/
"reviewgate" post for reference (it as taken down)
Seems things are not rosey over the 777
http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/10/il-2-sturmovik-exec-unprofessional/
Nice! In most respects its a mountain made out of a mole hill - revoking server and free stuff after people refuse to abide to some company code. But I do think that Jason Williams should have known better than close a server which had over 1000 man hours of content created by these enthusiasts. Closing it over such minor disagreement was a bad call, it was dumb.