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*****Official Ivybridge Review Thread*****

Oh, while you're at it Jokester, did you see anything about rumours IB has thermal paste not solder? Do you think that means it's time for you to get the razors out again like you did with the Athlon 64s?
 
The Halk said:
Oh, while you're at it Jokester, did you see anything about rumours IB has thermal paste not solder? Do you think that means it's time for you to get the razors out again like you did with the Athlon 64s?
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a website on the internet has done just that - and even without the tinlind the Ivy got just as hot

so conclusion they came to was that the TIM rather than solder is a red herring

they're getting hot apparently because of the new 22nm process/smaller gates/smaller die size
 
ok fair enough but still irrelevant because 99.9% of people will not have the skills to remove lid and/or fix a heatsink onto the silicon without damaging it as very fragile

so most will have to just live with higher temps or go Sandy
 
Jokester said:
Sorry, it was in reply to prescott28's post above it. I just wanted to clear up any ambiguity as regards the CPU temperature and the actual thermal energy it pumps out as a lot people believe that temperature is pretty much a direct measurement of how much power something uses.
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Well, I am more concerned that IB will end up like the old Prescott - far to hot by comparison with the Northwood. Maybe over-clocks reasonably modest will be OK for temperature.
 
prescott28 said:
Well, I am more concerned that IB will end up like the old Prescott - far to hot by comparison with the Northwood. Maybe over-clocks reasonably modest will be OK for temperature.
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I've no issue with the temps - but people always seem to continuously change their mind on what consistutes a stable overclock - be it GPUs or CPUs etc

if the temps were low, everyone would use IntelBurntest as a test (I find it by FAR the best way to check stability of my CPU - in a quick fashion) - yet as the new chips get too hot with it - suddenly its a duff test

same with the recent gpus and Furmark - I use Furmark to test stability of my GTX480 - if that can be stable in Furmark at high temps then anything should be able to

same iwth IntelBurntest - yet suddenly its out of fashion as its giving people results they don't like ......

if its getting too hot in IntelBurnTest - well drop the clocks ...
 
Jokester said:
And from the point of view of heating your room it still pumps out less heat than SB - every review has shown IB uses less power whether it's at stock or overclocked. The only reason the temperature if higher is because the chip is less efficient at getting the heat away.
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This is good news then. My Q6600 is a nightmare for heating up the room, especially in the warmer summer months
 
prescott28 said:
So it will be interesting to see what OCUK come up with in Over-clocked Bundles. from what I have seen the heat isn't too bad up to 4.5GHz but then rises steeply.
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Looks like their bundles may be 4.6Ghz for both the 3570k/3770k which is more promising than the reviewers who were stuck at 4.5Ghz.
 
prescott28 said:
Well, I am more concerned that IB will end up like the old Prescott - far to hot by comparison with the Northwood. Maybe over-clocks reasonably modest will be OK for temperature.
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IB is destined to get that reputation. The hive mind has already decided it runs hot, and you can be sure everybody with Sandy Bridge is going to be making themselves feel better about not having Ivy Bridge by telling people with Ivy Bridge that their CPUs suck.

It depends on what you're after... if you want to hit 5Ghz for the fun of it and you don't want to go for a high end waterblock then Sandy Bridge seems to be the right choice. If your mum and dad pay the electricity then all the better.

If you want a moderate overclock then the reviews are overwhelmingly saying IB is the right choice.

In all honesty though I don't see a great deal of difference between SB and IB. There's nuances of flavour between them, but there's no ground shattering differences - and you can see that by the lack of a price hike.
 
Krono5 said:
Looks like their bundles may be 4.6Ghz for both the 3570k/3770k which is more promising than the reviewers who were stuck at 4.5Ghz.
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are the bundles guaranteed stable at 4.6Ghz - I'd be interested to know what temps people get with these bundles

will be a good sign to how good the retail chips are :)
 
The Halk said:
IB is destined to get that reputation. The hive mind has already decided it runs hot, and you can be sure everybody with Sandy Bridge is going to be making themselves feel better about not having Ivy Bridge by telling people with Ivy Bridge that their CPUs suck.

It depends on what you're after... if you want to hit 5Ghz for the fun of it and you don't want to go for a high end waterblock then Sandy Bridge seems to be the right choice. If your mum and dad pay the electricity then all the better.

If you want a moderate overclock then the reviews are overwhelmingly saying IB is the right choice.

In all honesty though I don't see a great deal of difference between SB and IB. There's nuances of flavour between them, but there's no ground shattering differences - and you can see that by the lack of a price hike.
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I don't see much difference either - I'd quite happily have either - would I pay a premium for Ivy though ? not sure

on bit-tech - on a heavy overclock you're saving about 60W under load and 14W or so at idle - not too bad - but unless you are folding 24/7- most of the time your PC would be saving nearer to the 14W than the 60W

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/04/23/intel-core-i7-3770k-review/8

to be honest you'll get more saving by just setting your PC to hibernate/S3 standby at a quicker interval :)
 
Buckster said:
are the bundles guaranteed stable at 4.6Ghz - I'd be interested to know what temps people get with these bundles

will be a good sign to how good the retail chips are :)
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With the IPC improvements that must be similar to 4.8ghz on SB. Also I notice that the motherboards in those bundles are lower end. With improved cooling and better motherboards it might be possible to squeeze out a couple hundred more MHz.
 
AndyH_Lufc said:
With the IPC improvements that must be similar to 4.8ghz on SB. Also I notice that the motherboards in those bundles are lower end. With improved cooling and better motherboards it might be possible to squeeze out a couple hundred more MHz.
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:) and to be honest 4.8ghz is not guaranteed on a SB - so the Ivys aren't all bad :)
 
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