** Official ** January 2010 Transfer Thread- Rumours & Speculation in here

HangTime said:
Again, just because there is no NEED to sell players, doesn't mean to say it isn't a good idea if the numbers stack up. £10m for someone like Babel, plus savings in wages, would go into the coffers and potentially allow spending in future on bringing in new players.

The club should only sell Gerrard, Torres, Mascherano and Reina if they get big money offers in excess of their value (every player has a price). But there's a big difference between selling key personnel and subs who seem to want to leave and are starting to mouth off in the press. You are continually telling us how liverpool don't need any forwards, they've got adequate backup in the likes of Ngog, so why wouldn't it make sense to cash in on Babel if that would increase the potential for spending in the future (as I said, money doesn't just vanish if it isn't spent instantly)?
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For a start I've not continually said we don't need any more forwards, I said that if and when we sign Maxi Rodriguez we will then not be desperate to sign another striker as that would free up Kuyt to play more up front if needs be. However I also said that if the right player came about then we should look to sign 1 more striker.

Regarding Babel specifically; of course it doesn't make sense to sell him and not replace him when we're in a position like we are. Even with the signing of Rodriguez, imo we're still short of 1 more attacking player so to let Babel go and not replace him wouldn't be a good move.

Babel's transfer value isn't likely to change much between now and the summer however us missing out on a top 4 spot will cost us massive amounts of money. Now I'm not saying that Babel's going to make the difference between us qualifying for the CL or not but right now we need every player we've got.

And I explained why I said the money vanished. 1 of our lovely owners claimed that the money was still available to Rafa and hadn't gone towards paying off debt in the summer, something we now know to be bs.
HangTime said:
My understanding is that Arsenal didn't NEED to raise £30m on transfers in the summer either, that's why there is a comparison. Arsenal sold Adebayor when they didn't need to and didn't buy a replacement, same situation as Babel. They sold him because he was overvalued and not a favourite with fans.
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Sorry, I wasn't refering to selling players to pay-off the debt more to do with the level of understanding/resentment of Arsenal fans towards their debt and Liverpool fan's to ours.

Regarding Adebayor being sold and no replacement being bought; that is because Wenger didn't think you needed to sign a replacement, as above, we do need every player we have right now.
 
Contractually at least 70% of income from transfers at Arsenal has to be spent on transfers/contract renewals and cannot be used to service the clubs debts.
 
I skimmed over something about that the other day and read it as you could spend a maximum of 70% of what's brought in. Didn't know that the money had to be spent on transfers/contracts.
 
It was part of the plans for the new stadium to stop transfers funds being spent on the stadium/debt. The money is held in a special account.
 
StewartMG said:
100k a week at 57 years old? I want his job :'(
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Viera is 57 yrs old??:eek::p....he is definitely past his best but thats just stupid money to be paying for a player who isnt at his prime anymore. But thats the one thing i absolutely loathe about Man City and their arab owners...just throwing money away....the sooner they and Chelski go under the better imho.
 
HTF did Benitez manage to sell Porn Star for 2 million Euros? Really feel sorry for Dinamo but good riddance to the lazy waste of space.

Hope Babel and his ego are next out the door. Rafa might not get any of the transfer money to spend but he's worth getting rid of regardless.
 
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Pigeon_Killer said:
HTF did Benitez manage to sell Porn Star for 2 million Euros? Really feel sorry for Dinamo but good riddance to the lazy waste of space.

Hope Babel and his ego are next out the door. Rafa might not get any of the transfer money to spend but he's worth getting rid of regardless.
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You've got to give him that, he turns some right **** in to excellent sales.

Sissoko to Juve :eek:
 
Sissoko pre-eye injury was a beast but that injury completely ruined him. Lost his place in the team when we signed Mascherano and lost all confidence and looked a nervous wreck every time he had the ball.

Seems to have regained his confidence and was playing well for Juventus before his injury and the few fans that aren't racists seem to love him.
 
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No idea but if they happily aim monkey chants and racist chants towards black players in other teams it's probably safe to assume they're not going to think too highly of the black players in their own team.
 
Perhaps but I think Mourinho was right when he said its more ignorance than racism. If it were racism then surely the fans would oppose black players in their own teams?

There probably are some examples but I can't think of any times when Italian fans have racially abused their own players.
 
Visionary said:
Perhaps but I think Mourinho was right when he said its more ignorance than racism. If it were racism then surely the fans would oppose black players in their own teams?

There probably are some examples but I can't think of any times when Italian fans have racially abused their own players.
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Paul Ince got it at Inter Milan.
 
bloodline76 said:
Im sure they arent all racists but you are still a racist even if you dont abuse your own team (as much). They are just inconsistant racists :eek:
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Selective racism! :o

Wonder if Campbell will be signed on a year long contract. I don't think he should really be signed. Maybe for cover but I'd never start him and personally I think Senderos is better. Why sell a young defender for a has been?
 
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I said there are probably examples. Racism goes on in English football a lot as well, it's stupid to single out the Italians all the time.
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Not related to football but didn't Lewis Hamilton get racially abused by the Spanish? They called him a monkey or something. Every country has racists, and not necessarily only against blacks, whites can be racially abused as well.
 
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