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*** Official Ryzen Owners Thread ***

gavinh87 said:
Gupsterg a user on here and OCN had same memory kit same motherboard and x2 1700's 1 could do 2933 the other could do 3200.
Plenty of users on the same bios same ram kit are getting mixed results.
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Yeah can link several user experience where they change CPU and gain higher RAM. Fugger, has extreme cooling as well, OC experience. Then you got other members like Chew who are hitting 3200MHz with dual rank ram.

1TM1 has 1800X Hynix M used same setup on C6H + Asus Prime X370 Prime 3200MHz, 1700X 2993MHz. Disasterpiec99 1700 3200MHz, 1700X 2933MHz, same board/ram. There was a post on the OCN owners thread where I also linked lots of posts, older UEFI on C6H have 3200MHz, newer not. Then you have other members hitting 3200MHz regardless of UEFI versions. Recently this member on TPU, stuck at 2133MHz and states seen others with same board/RAM have 2400MHz.

All in all mixed bag.
 
eyetrip said:
Man, feels like I'm spending my life waiting for bios updates...

Come on Asus, want to get my ram a bit higher and have my chip clocking down at idle.

Strangely after first flashing to 0604, I was able to boot with ram at 2666. Won't any more.
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1001 working fine here with Samsung Bdie. Going to work on 4x8GB tomorrow.


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A quick question for you guys in the know..

Is the Crosshair VI Hero the only Ryzen board compatible with AM3 mount blocks/coolers?
 
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keenan said:
A quick question for you guys in the know..

Is the Crosshair VI Hero the on Ryzen board compatible with AM3 mount blocks/coolers?
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If you mean that it's the only board to support AM3 backplates, to my knowledge, yes.
Be careful however, as I got caught out thinking that it would be fine to use the H115i on it with the AM3 backplate but it just didn't sit right at all and I couldn't get the pressure down. I ended up sending the H115i back and getting the H110i instead.
 
Rossi~ said:
If you mean that it's the only board to support AM3 backplates, to my knowledge, yes.
Be careful however, as I got caught out thinking that it would be fine to use the H115i on it with the AM3 backplate but it just didn't sit right at all and I couldn't get the pressure down. I ended up sending the H115i back and getting the H110i instead.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I was using a Phobya uc-lt block on my last AM3 build and an EK-Supreme on my current, but sadly neither has AM4 mounts listed as coming in the near future.

I was planning on getting the MSI B350 Tomahawk, but if I have to spend another £60 on a new block then I might as well just buy a more expensive board.

Don't know if I'm ready to settle for Crosshair VI Hero expensive though.. :(
 
keenan said:
A quick question for you guys in the know..

Is the Crosshair VI Hero the on Ryzen board compatible with AM3 mount blocks/coolers?
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Yes it will. However, as others have pointed out, stand offs on an AM3 back plate are longer than those on an AM4 back plate. Meaning that for AM3 coolers that screw down, the thread is likely to bottom out before the correct pressure is applied to the CPU. (Because the Ryzen CPU's sit lower than older AM3 CPUs)

I bought an AM3 back plate off Amazon and had to make a quick mod so my Swiftech H220X would screw down properly. I used a quadruple layer of card 'gaskets' cut to the same shape as the back plate (with the middle hole cut out etc) to make up the difference (I think the difference in length of the stand offs is around 1mm to 1.3mm, based on my caliper measurement of the height of the AM4 CPU above the 'deck' compared to the height of the AM3 CPU. (The AM4 CPU sits lower)

Effectively then, a stack of washers packing out in between the back plate and the back of the motherboard, that make up the 1mm - 1.3mm difference. This worked for me. (I used card because well, I didn't have any rubber washers, and the card spreads the load more evenly I guess.) Remember folks, don't use metal washers !!

I know that some board manufacturers also made a mistake in the AM4 back plates that come with the board, as they made the stand offs the wrong length (made to the old AM3 length)
 
Theagg said:
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I know that some board manufacturers also made a mistake in the AM4 back plates that come with the board, as they made the stand offs the wrong length (made to the old AM3 length)
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Just to note that card will compress over a relatively short time and things will get loose.
 
Scougar said:
Just to note that card will compress over a relatively short time and things will get loose.
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I had considered that myself, so have been keeping an eye on that. So far it's holding up and its still snug, and it's been three weeks :) At some point I might swap the 'card plate' sandwich layer out for rubber washers, but then the force is not evenly spread out.

I'm also wondering if the AM4 back plate that came with my CH6 is one of the incorrect designs, as the stand offs are the same length as for an AM3 back plate ? (I have seen pics of the comparison between AM3 and AM4 plates and my AM4 plate has definitely longer ones than the 'correct' plate in those pics.)
 
Theagg said:
I'm also wondering if the AM4 back plate that came with my CH6 is one of the incorrect designs, as the stand offs are the same length as for an AM3 back plate ? (I have seen pics of the comparison between AM3 and AM4 plates and my AM4 plate has definitely longer ones than the 'correct' plate in those pics.)
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Possibly in the same boat, the mount kit for my Raystorm Pro block stood relatively tall off the board. The big washers for them were not even touching so didn't use them... Works ok though, ultimately the cooler screws are spring tensioned so just sits a touch higher.
 
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Possible fix to the Windows 10 NVMe freezing during workloads such as RealBench

Seeing how this seems to be releated to NVMe SSD's I think I've found the solution but haven't tested it extensively yet. By default windows 10 allows an nvme drive to enter power saving states after just 100 milliseconds. Increasing this value to the maximum allowed that being 60000 (60 seconds) should prevent the nvme drive from pretty much ever entering a power saving state and should fix this. Seeing how windows 7 doesn't have this setting at all and effectively lets the nvme drive stay in it's full powered state at all times (as long as PCIe Link State Power Management is disabled atleast, or maybe the time required to deem the drive "idle" is sufficiently high even with it enabled for the drive to never enter a power saving state) would also explain why this bug doesn't seem to exist in windows 7.

To change the nvme idle timeout value you first need to apply a registry tweak to unhide the setting in advanced power settings. Make sure to export/backup HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings before you change anything! After you've done this open for the following registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\0012ee47-9041-4b5d-9b77-535fba8b1442\d639518a-e56d-4345-8af2-b9f32fb26109

From there change Attributes from 1 (Remove = hidden) to 2 (Add = unhidden)



Worked in my case. I'm Using Samsung NVMe driver set it to 600000 or whatever 10 minutes :)

Link to registry mod made by that user:
http://www.overclock.net/attachments/47597
 
Hmmm.

Everything is stock in my system right now, so I'm a little concerned with a small hiccup I noticed just now.

Was playing some music through the Amazon cloud music page in Chrome when I thought I'd just do a quick run of cinebench (I'm not even sure why).

The problem is there was annoying audio glitch/stuttering.

This is with audio out through the gpu.

I don't consider cinebench that heavy a load, so hoping there is some way to alleviate this as I don't want to have to be doing nothing on my system to listen to music...

Can any perform similar tests to see what happens?
 
eyetrip said:
Think a bump in teh SOC voltage helped.
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From hundreds of hours of tests ( due to being off work 2 weeks with messed up foot cant walk) I'm sure of 1 thing...

Ryzen Platform LOVES VOLTS.

Usually if something is not right needs more volts on something. U can test cpu gpu memory separate will be all fine. But combined in daily use something is not right...
 
AMDMatt said:
You'll need to increase either or both, CPUSOC and DRAM. For example, i could not get 4.1Ghz stable without setting DRAM to 1.5v, CPUSOC made little difference in my scenario, but your mileage may vary.
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Like Matt could not get cpu to run 4.1 without pumping volts in to DDR's. Like who would think that about that ??

BTW i also bumped volts on DDR's and where i was getting code 8 crash on CPU LOAD it fixed it and if i bumped Vcore that did **** all....
 
eyetrip said:
Aaaaaaand...

I remember why I didn't try for very long at 2666 — not stable even under light load, and I didn't have the guts for 1.5v on ram.
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but thats due to Ypu using 64gb of mems. Atm myslef i sould not even consider more than 16gb on 2 sticks. Anything more is PROBLEMS. I dont think pumping more than 1.42 on ddrs willd do anything more like punping Vcore Soc VDDP.
I would go with 1.44 vcore 1.15 soc 1.15 VDDP. Its not ram fault that IMC does not like rams. Not to mention u could have ****** IMC in cpu to start with

Are Your DDR's on samsung ?? If on Hynix then u r ****** :/
 
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