******Official Star Citizen / Squadron 42 Thread******
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Soldato
CIG didn't bought the CryEngine code, they got a licence to use it and Crytek gave them that after signing the contract, there was even a clause to send bug fixes to Crytek.
It was not theirs (CIG) to hand out the CryEngine source code to the third party company. That alone is copyright infringement in a very big scale. Pure and simple.
As for the lawyers, if you read the court documents, will be paid by the defendant. And given the case and the lawyers involved, I believe the guys knew well the case they took over and the chances to get their money.
Soldato
Yes. They are done.
Look at this. According to the court documents, Crytek made all the Star Citizen demo videos the previous years! Including the famous ones in 2012 that launched the game!
They weren't made by Roberts and the "game engine" as he claimed on the videos.
But by Crytek using custom tools over the CryEngine.
Soldato
This is all assuming that CIG didn't do a complete buy-out of the code as they stated. If they have then I would say that they had every write to share the code accordingly to 3rd parties.
Soldato
That was the original term in 2012. The document doesn't state anything about what CIG stated in 2014 where they said they had indeed purchased the code completely and standalone though. They said they had legal ownership of the source code in 2014 and thus all of the claim becomes an issue then. We don't know as we have no evidence either way right now.
Edit: and yeah they will still be paid something up front with either fees reclaimed if paid by the current part or the percentage otherwise claimed once the case is won/lost. If CryTek loose they will still be paying the lawyers.
And they still have to pay for them doing the initial legal and similar, that is still tens of thousands of dollars to do that.
Caporegime
Three Moons and one huge Asteroid.
Moons: Daymar, Yela and Celin
Asteroid: Delemar
In that video i landed at Levski which is on the Asteroid, Delemar.
Edit: technically two Asteroid's given that GrimHex is built into one.
I don't know if they are done yet the SC community has proven time and time again that they will throw money at them but it's not looking good. It's been common knowledge that CR lied on the kickstarter that he has already been working on the game, now we know that Crytek was responsible for the kickstarter content.
I find it funny that Crytek, the company that made the SC kickstarter possible, went overnight from "the best game engine ever, german geniuses etc." to "scumbags that want to leech money for their failing company"
Caporegime
I have read part on the lawsuit, not all of it yet.
And it is just from the plaintiffs side.
With all that said the claim seems to be that Crytek provided assets, code and the engine at a reduced fee in return for publishing the game under the Cryengine banner, of course CIG are no longer going to do that.
Edit: yes including helping them with raising money during the kickstarter and subsequent stretch goals.
And it is just from the plaintiffs side.
With all that said the claim seems to be that Crytek provided assets, code and the engine at a reduced fee in return for publishing the game under the Cryengine banner, of course CIG are no longer going to do that.
Edit: yes including helping them with raising money during the kickstarter and subsequent stretch goals.
Soldato
In addition to exclusively use CryEngine no other engine, for one game only named Star Citizen, and the source code was given with the clause for Crytek to get annually the patch fixes CIG does to the CryEngine.
On the contrary CIG went even further giving to others the source code of the CryEngine, breaking copyright laws.
Caporegime
Edit: I see ^^^ ok 
I'm conflicted about this, if true, i like CiG but have also got antiquated with some of the CryTek developers and they are a good bunch, the whole thing is just really sad, i think CIG made the right call in moving to Lumberyard but if CryTek's complaint is true then i just wish CIG would have worked harder at a compromise.
I'm conflicted about this, if true, i like CiG but have also got antiquated with some of the CryTek developers and they are a good bunch, the whole thing is just really sad, i think CIG made the right call in moving to Lumberyard but if CryTek's complaint is true then i just wish CIG would have worked harder at a compromise.
Caporegime
So another ship sale to help pay legal fees.
So glad I got a AMD game code (with that crappy red ship) for nothing.
So glad I got a AMD game code (with that crappy red ship) for nothing.
Soldato
Ha exactly the same.
AMD game code from the 290X, and sold the second code a year later from the 295X2 for £35.
Caporegime
Its not crappy if you use it right, even in combat, its so fast and manoeuvrable its like having a fight with a flee on steroids, i used to love torturing Sabres and Hornets with mine.
Soldato
Its not crappy if you use it right, even in combat, its so fast and manoeuvrable its like having a fight with a flee on steroids, i used to love torturing Sabres and Hornets with mine.
The main point of the AMD gift code, was that covers both SC and SQ42 if ever they come out, now.
Same for me although I did consider pledging at the very early stages until I did a bit of research on CR.
Caporegime
Awesome...
Soldato
Maybe this will force them to bring out Squadron 42?
The case has made it on to the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42352606
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Could be an interesting get out tactic from roberts , sorry game will not be coming out after all as we have been sued.
Soldato
Exactly what I got, but paid a little bit for it (under £20 iirc).
Caporegime