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You only need to buy the base game to get all the PU stuff including the ability to trade / fight and get more credits to purchase different things... apart from the special variants currently, all ships are purchasable in game. The other ships you see not in starter packs are for those people who wish to support the game. Essentially you're backing the development with a contribution, and in return you get a digital ship plus some insurance. All 'pledges' are basically just backing development. There are a lot of people who clearly see this as something worth investing in, myself included.

I sold out and got a full refund in 2018 about the release of Alpha 2.6, closed my account which I had since 2012 and had spent ~$1000NZD... since Alpha 3.0 I've got back in to it and now have spent a bit more than I had originally, but its all disposable to me and if this gets anywhere near its potential then it will be great... Sure its slow, I don't think anyone can argue that, and the scope has been stretched (at backers request during hte original kickstart) but the bed to space to planet, at scale, approach is pretty cool and it will get better as they resolve the server meshing.
 
Rilot said:
OK, maybe not an outright scam, but it's an Alpha version of the game and they are asking people to pay money for the base game, and then even more money to buy ships. I've just looked at the website for it and the price of some of the ships is incredible.
Maybe I just don't understand.

The reason for the initial post is because one of my friends at the weekend mentioned that he's spent several hundred quid on this game and wished he hadn't.
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As blitz said, you just need a base game package which costs same ish as a triple A game like Battlefield 2042.

Thats all really.

i remember dayz was in alpha for a very long time. 7 days to die from 2013 is also still in alpha or beta now?

You can literally try the game out for free now for the next 10 days or so as there is a event called IAE.
 
BlizzardX said:
You only need to buy the base game to get all the PU stuff including the ability to trade / fight and get more credits to purchase different things... apart from the special variants currently, all ships are purchasable in game. The other ships you see not in starter packs are for those people who wish to support the game. Essentially you're backing the development with a contribution, and in return you get a digital ship plus some insurance. All 'pledges' are basically just backing development. There are a lot of people who clearly see this as something worth investing in, myself included.

I sold out and got a full refund in 2018 about the release of Alpha 2.6, closed my account which I had since 2012 and had spent ~$1000NZD... since Alpha 3.0 I've got back in to it and now have spent a bit more than I had originally, but its all disposable to me and if this gets anywhere near its potential then it will be great... Sure its slow, I don't think anyone can argue that, and the scope has been stretched (at backers request during hte original kickstart) but the bed to space to planet, at scale, approach is pretty cool and it will get better as they resolve the server meshing.
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i thnk once Server meshing is in and pyro, this game will explode into new levels of hype/new players
 
jonneymendoza said:
i thnk once Server meshing is in and pyro, this game will explode into new levels of hype/new players
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My hype has been tempered somewhat over the years but I play the 'tech demo' many times during the week and enjoy the experience. I'm not quite sure whether they spin the same number of servers up in Australiasian region as they always seem full and therefore the server is sluggish but server meshing will be the truest demonstration of the games potential as that will open up better performance initially via the static meshed approach while scaling up areas to support more players on one shard.
 
Rilot said:
OK, maybe not an outright scam, but it's an Alpha version of the game and they are asking people to pay money for the base game, and then even more money to buy ships. I've just looked at the website for it and the price of some of the ships is incredible.
Maybe I just don't understand.

The reason for the initial post is because one of my friends at the weekend mentioned that he's spent several hundred quid on this game and wished he hadn't.
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You don't need to do that, all you need is the $45 starter package, everyother ship is purchasable in game with in game earned currency

jonneymendoza said:
Nope.

Its not a scam. plenty of people are playing this game.

A lot of ED players have switched to this "so called scam of a game"
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There are a lot of EVE Online people here too.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Nope.

Its not a scam. plenty of people are playing this game.

A lot of ED players have switched to this "so called scam of a game"
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It's already a scam people handed over money a decade ago for a game to be released within a reasonable time-frame, so they've already been scammed. They didn't hand over money to build a business for Chris Roberts to run indefintely, or to keep opening swanky new offices, or to pay 1400 people's salaries for a decade.
 
Darujhistan said:
After 11 years and $400M they should be giving the game away for free now. Might also be a more efficient way to rope in more rubes for pixel ship sales.
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How much does it cost to make an MMO on this scale, and a stand alone campaign and a MP mini game? Which might not be so mini by the time its done.

Cyberpunk 2077 was $174 Billion, not including marketing, which was $142 Million on top of the development cost, for a total cost of $316 Million.
 
humbug said:
How much does it cost to make an MMO on this scale, and a stand alone campaign and a MP mini game? Which might not be so mini by the time its done.

Cyberpunk 2077 was $174 Billion, not including marketing, which was $142 Million on top of the development cost, for a total cost of $316 Million.
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And whose money were CDPR using to develop that game?

MMO? lol, EVE in an MMO, that's a massive interactive, co-dependent Universe with a full-player driven economy etc what SC? one very small system and some pew-pew action?

On what scale? one small star system?

You haven't got an MMO or even a game, nevermind 2 games. "By the time it's done" - don't make me laugh. Look where the money has gone a cast of thousands "developing" the game, swanky offices all over the place, fortunes to paid to Hollywood stars for voice-overs...

By the time this is released, if it ever is, it will be completely out of date and they'll have spent closer to a $1BN, than $500M, of other peoples money.

Interesting you bring up CP2077, because it;s exactly the same thing, very pretty on the surface, but broken and shallow upon inspection.
 
Darujhistan said:
And whose money were CDPR using to develop that game?

MMO? lol, EVE in an MMO, that's a massive interactive, co-dependent Universe with a full-player driven economy etc what SC? one very small system and some pew-pew action?

On what scale? one small star system?

You haven't got an MMO or even a game, nevermind 2 games. "By the time it's done" - don't make me laugh. Look where the money has gone a cast of thousands "developing" the game, swanky offices all over the place, fortunes to paid to Hollywood stars for voice-overs...

By the time this is released, if it ever is, it will be completely out of date and they'll have spent closer to a $1BN, than $500M, of other peoples money.

Interesting you bring up CP2077, because it;s exactly the same thing, very pretty on the surface, but broken and shallow upon inspection.
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By the time this is released, if it ever is, it will be completely out of date
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People have been saying that for years and i'm still waiting for something else to get even close to anything like it, even for what it is right now, so many ED players expected that from Odyssey and now practically all of them have moved over here, along with a bunch of the EVE Online lot.

I don't know much about the cost of developing games, but it seems to me its expensive, hundreds of millions of $ is normal for AAA games and there is nothing else like Star Citizen.
 
Do they ever publicly say how much of their money comes from players and how much from investment? I'm not surprised it raised so much money to begin with. Chris Roberts is a name people remember (good or bad another story :p) and they had the scope that not many other games have matched. Saying that though I am surprised how much players are still throwing their money at it despite the very slow progress and missed deadlines.
 
humbug said:
People have been saying that for years and i'm still waiting for something else to get even close to anything like it, even for what it is right now, so many ED players expected that from Odyssey and now practically all of them have moved over here, along with a bunch of the EVE Online lot.

I don't know much about the cost of developing games, but it seems to me its expensive, hundreds of millions of $ is normal for AAA games and there is nothing else like Star Citizen.
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Close to anything like it? like what? So people from ED came over because their own game died a death, what does that tell you long term? and their game for years was least an actual game and functional. Of course people who want space games are goiong to come over, SCI FI themes are very popular.

There's nothing else like Star Citizen? there's no game, I've watched gameplay vids, there's zero that hasn't been done before. It looks nice, there's ome nice touches, good attention to detail, but it's so so shallow, 10 years and $400M for his?

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On a tangent to the current topic direction... On the subject of SC hitting 400m dollars raised, a friend linked an article earlier showing how much money has been spent on some mobile games. Suddenly Star Citizen's income looks like a small value! https://screenrant.com/highest-grossing-mobile-games-ranked/
When you consider how little some of these games probably cost to develop it's insane!

As for SC. I think most people are buying into it for the potential, I know I am. I'd be feeling foolish otherwise at the moment, since my current experiences of the 3.15 patch are that it's utterly trash. Poor server performance, constant random deaths and losing all equipment, missions I can't complete, losing rep due to bugs. It's highly frustrating.
I think the current issues can't be doing CIG any favours during the free fly. It's their opportunity to prove to non-supporters that there is a great game in development. Yet currently it's only those who know how to work around all the issues with a good amount of patience that can have any real enjoyment. The new user experience is attrocious right now and I feel that CIG really need to do some QoL fixes to address this.

For all the issues the game has. I'm glad they are sticking to their guns and aiming to only release when it's done. Better to delay than release a poor game as we've seen with Cyberpunk 2077 and more recently BF2042.
 
Darujhistan said:
Close to anything like it? like what? So people from ED came over because their own game died a death, what does that tell you long term? and their game for years was least an actual game and functional. Of course people who want space games are goiong to come over, SCI FI themes are very popular.

There's nothing else like Star Citizen? there's no game, it's all surface level detail and flashly videos.
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You say that while at the same time whining about the amount of money its bringing in, the player count also continues to balloon.

Plenty of people are enjoying what this is, it is not going away, CIG are still expanding, development of the game will go on, every 3 months more and more is added to it, every year is a record year for them as more and more people join this.

What is this irrational reaction to this game, i don't get it, do you want it to be out tomorrow? Or do you want it to be dead tomorrow? Neither of those are going to happen, i am frustrated by how long its taking, i've had it since early 2014, now i play it more than i ever did, i play it far more than anything else so you telling me its all just flashy videos just doesn't wash.
 
They need to do free fly events to try and catch those new whales that are willing to drop thousands on it. I can see people paying £30 to take a punt on it and see what happens but their money is coming from the people who are buying each of those £100 ships when they are released
 
Considering the amount of stuff they added bot on the surface and in the engine/tech side, it is actually quite amazing how stable it is.

I thougth 3.15 would be far worse.

The servers do seem more stable, i have not encountered any server crashes and they recently added the server crash recovery feature.

Its been my most played game also since the pandemic began really.
 
MikeTheNative said:
They need to do free fly events to try and catch those new whales that are willing to drop thousands on it. I can see people paying £30 to take a punt on it and see what happens but their money is coming from the people who are buying each of those £100 ships when they are released
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You dont have to buy extra ships from the pledge store. Just buy the base game package and off you go.
 
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