** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here

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Tummy said:
Young, English, Bags of potential ?

I think United need to get in a replacement for Van Der Sar.
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why?

Van der Sar still performed admirably last season and obviously Ferguson and himself think he's still good for another season. They may be mistaken but, if not, it'd be very tricky to keep 2 top quality keepers happy for a season and you can't really bed in a keeper as they need a prolonged run of games really. I think we'll keep VDS with PIG as a more than capable second keeper and then next season a top keeper will be our #1 priority.
 
VDS still has a good season left and I thought PIG did really well last season. Don't see why we need a new keeper yet. There are far more pressing areas. We didn't lose against Chelsea, Bayern and the like because of bad keeping, we lost because of lack of attacking threat.
 
It's shaping up to be a big summer for transfers. Looking more and more likely that fabregas is on his way to barca which is a shame as it was nice having him in the prem and barca don't exactly need him do they! They're just getting greedy now. :(

You assume that Ibra is gonna have to be on his way but I have no idea where as he's always got ridiculous salaries and I'm not sure who's gonna want to pay them. Torres could go to chelsea (definitely won't go to barca because they've spent enough and couldn't fit him in anyway) but I think he'll just stay at liverpool for now. Few man u aguero rumours today but can't see that happening as I don't think they can afford him especially if it went to a bidding war with chelsea. Assuming torres does stay, then I guess aguero will finally end up at chelsea. Ribery seems to have signed a contract extension with bayern which is a shame as those rumours were always fun. :p I think he realised that his options were rapidly decreasing (due to bad press and his high valuation) so thought he might as well stay - they did come second in the champions league after all. ;)

Finally, if mourinho ends up at real (which I guess he will) then there's bound to be a few signings there off the back of that.
 
we've got the money for a 30-40mill signing but you're right in that we won't get drawn into a bidding war. He's Chelsea bound if they want him.
 
I still can't understand Chelsea wanting to sign Aguero, strong, out muscles players, bullys defenders, works hard and scores goals....... if he were a little taller he'd be Drogba mark 2. Personally I think Anelka had a great season and they are a great pair, but if anyone was going to come in and replace one of them, Anelka would be losing his spot, so a player in his mould would make more sense than one in Drogba's mould.
 
Shamikebab said:
I think Fergie is just playing things close to the chest. While I'm not saying we will make signings, I don't think that statement means we won't make signings.
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Probably true but the last i read was that a further £76mill has been added onto your ongoing debt due to the current interest on your loans against the club or something to that effect.

If thats true then Fergie probably wont make any signings...well not big name signings ie £20-£30mill+ signings this summer...seems like it may be a long time before you can afford that luxury of spending big money on players as your debt seems to be getting bigger and bigger...whereas City and Chelski can still afford to shell out £20-£30mill+ plus for players....although in Citys case, they will find it hard as they didnt get CL football for next season.
 
DanH84 said:
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* i take it you don't
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Well I don't think you've got the cash sitting there waiting to be spent. It's being reported that the Glazers either already have or are about to take a £70m dividend out of the club to pay down their PIK.

It's perfectly possible that you could borrow the money. In fact the bond issue mentions that you've got a revolving credit facility should outgoing transfer fees exceed incoming transfer fees.

All in all, I'd be surprised if you spend a great deal more than you bring in this summer.
 
Basically in spite of the debt that the club is footing repayments for, the club's revenue streams are still extremely strong - the strongest in the world if you discount #2 Barcelona who relied on a weak Sterling exchange rate to pip United back to third, and #1 Real Madrid who, in essence, enjoy state funding. They post sizable profits each quarter even after debt repayment, and their debt is shrinking considerably (link). They could afford a sizable transfer fee if it was seen to be 'worthwhile' and in the club's long-term interests, although yes, their ability to buy and pay whatever they want at a drop of a hat is considerably diminished since the takeover.

Ultimately letting the club stagnate is not option for the Glazers, even seeing it as a business it is not in their interests either to plough everything into debt servicing - people seem to forget they need trophies in the cabinet and stars on the pitch for their financial strategy of increasing their profits in markets like Asia and the US to even have a hope of suceeding. The droves of City fans coming out of the woodwork, and Chelsea fans before them, show that no-one likes to support losers. The pressure being mounted on them by rival groups for yet another takeover, even mentioned in that article, adds yet more pressure for them not to be seen to be 'holding the team back'.

In essence what Fergie and Gill are saying is not contradictory, Manchester United has the ability to shift its weight about in the transfer market (and then some), it's just that while Chelsea can afford to blow tens of millions on 'maybes' like Shevshenko and co., it would be more costly to United if not anything near a 'deathblow'. Softly does it for now.
 
Problem is that while Utd paid off £30m of the debt since this time last year (a reasonable amount but still a little like going to the loo in the ocean - makes jack all difference considering actual size of the debt), they have also been hit by this £75m interest increase, so Utd are still worse off than they were last year

Ok so the new sponsorship team set up in London has just finalised the deal that amounts to £200m in 2-3 years which is an astonishing amount for anyone, but then you look at things like "official wine sponsor" and ****** like that and have to laugh

Still believe Utd could sign a £20-30m player if needed (as long as wages werent insane), but it does look more difficult with Liverpool (even if they dont get rid of Torres), Chelsea, RM and Barca not to mention Bayern / AC all going after the same players even more than normal

I really wouldnt be surprised to see Utd try and get Anelka IF Chelsea get Torres (even if stats say he hasnt had any better a season than Berba, with only a year left on his contract I believe, he should be cheapish)
 
there's a bit of over newspaper reading going on in here. Simply put our last accounts showed we have cash of around £122 million sat in the bank, a lot of our losses are tax dodge write downs. We also took out a 75million revolving credit facility which can be used exclusively for player transfers. We'll use the credit facility to purchase the players but that's not going to add to our interest burden. Simply because it's more sensible to use the credit than it is to use cash, we can borrow on that credit facility at 4.5%ish. While doing this we use our cash reserves to pay off 70-80mill PIK debt at 14.25-16.25 meaning they don't go up by 70million or whatever the daily fail indicates in it's worse case scenario and we replace one type of credit with a vastly less expensive one.

Our financial position isn't optimum but it's very secure.
 
FrankJH said:
I really wouldnt be surprised to see Utd try and get Anelka IF Chelsea get Torres (even if stats say he hasnt had any better a season than Berba, with only a year left on his contract I believe, he should be cheapish)
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That would be great, would mean that Anelka will have played for all the "big 4" (Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool). That would make a great trivia question in years to come.
 
Looks like Berbaflop isnt going anywhere according to what Fergie is saying...guess hes going to give him another season to either improve or flop spectacularly:p.

Arsenal also reporting that no formal bid has been made for Fabregas either...Daily Fail reporting that Arsenal want at least £80mill for him:eek::p...which is laughable in all honesty...theres no way hes worth that much even i admit that as an Arsenal supporter.

We are also being linked with a £16mill bid for Stephane Mbia, a Marseille midfielder..again Daily Fail reporting that one so wouldnt place too much emphasis on that happening.

Avram Grant the next West Ham manager?? as hes just announced his resignation from Pompey.
 
80m sounds fine to me, who cares what people think he's worth, it's all about how much Arsenal value him and how expensive it is to replace him (he's irreplaceable, so a lot)
 
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