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Wasn't it buffed pretty significantly later? Quite a few people rave about it and with the way MM is preferential status must help. I was still playing when it had the gun handling buff and it brought it back into life, now with better mobility must be a decent proposition.
yeah it's been buffed and also has pref matchmaking so still one of the best mediums in it's tier. If they do introduce the +-1 MM then the buffed premiums will be super strong.

Since the new MM was introduced in 2017, Type 59 sees constantly tier 9 battles, without any tier 7s most of them. Over the last course of the year only one battle was "of the old preferential MM" with their 6s under it.
The rest were tier 9s or full tier 8s. Even all tier 8 battles, is feeling very underpowered tank, compared to T44-100, T54Mod1, Progetto, Lorraine, T26SP, T25Pilot, even the Israeli M51 (named M4 Rev in game).

There are far superior tier 8, both normal and premium, that the Type is outmatched against. Even some Tier 7s like the Eagle and Panther M10, outmatch it.
Let alone P44s, Progettos, T54Mod, 432LT, or the gazillion tier 7 & 8 light tanks. When it was introduced, there were no autoloaders, nor light tanks over tier 6.

Is very easy to outmanouver and it's tough turret doesn't count for anything these days of gold spamming. The chassis is rotten, covered with fuel tanks, arty shots prone to take out 2 crew members also.
And god forbid don't get hit by an Japanese heavy tank, of O-I or better.

The engine HP nerf, the engine bhp nerf and the mobility nerf, completely made this tank a shadow of what it was.

As for "buffed gun", only the penetration is buffed. Gun handling is atrocious and cannot hit a moving target at 200m even today, with 6 skill crew like the one I have.
When it had the smaller (initial) gun, with the 175mm penetration, it was more accurate, and far far superior gun for taking out mediums and lights.

And saying again. Because I own both. For premium brawlers, T54Mod1 is far superior tank, even in tier 10 battles, than Type 59.
The former on tier 8 battles can carry the team also, even when 2/3 of your team are brain dead. If all tier 8s put together, Progetto/Pantera 44 are hands down the best Tier 8 meds, and WZ132 the best light-medium.
 
Nice to see that changes to the E-100 and IS-4 may be around the corner. Looks like I'll have to finish off that last 60K XP on the ST-1 ready for when the changes come in. Quite honestly if they were to just increase the penetration of standard shells on the E100 and nothing else I'd quite happily play it, it often feels like you can't do much in it apart from being a wall for some team mates huddled behind you unless firing HEAT or HE at tier 10 tanks.

I decided to go for 22 loot boxes yesterday and ended up with 15 days premium, obviously a reasonable amount of silver (can't remember what I had originally so can't comment an exact amount) and about 9,000 gold. Also received the Turan, leFH18B2, M4 Improved, KV-220-2, E25, IS3-A and a Defender. Receiving the Defender was a nice meme by WarGaming because I have the Object 252u already, so I would have much preferred to just receive gold instead of the Defender. Also, obtained enough Christmas decorations to take me up to level 9 on the Christmas whats-it-thingy. So the 9,000 gold covered the cost of 11 boxes easily (and then some), then there is the premium time and tanks on top, so I hate to say it but it was actually worth picking up some loot boxes in my case. Could've saved as few pence by going straight for 25 boxes, but I didn't know if I'd but a second lot until they seemed to be working in my favour.

Didn't realise the OCUK clan was still active, if someone would be kind enough to invite me my in game name is GTAMADDOG, thanks.
 
NOTE: We’ll reduce the damage output of “special ammo” by 25-30%,

:rolleyes:

The bleeding obvious is potentially being considered as western audiences of the game decline steadily...

This idea was put forward regularly since before the game launched.
 
well I stumped up for 11 boxes as I figured if nothing else it would give me some premium time while I am off for a couple of weeks at Christmas

got an e25 on my third box then another in the 5th! so it credited me gold for that then I got an improved sherman..which isnt great bit its something new

so for 17 quid ended up with 18 days premium an E25 (which I put the all female crew in from the christmas event) and 11500 gold...which I have no idea what I am going to do with...any suggestion for a good premium? or I might just save it until something comes up on offer

is there one tank thats a great all rounder? thats really worth having if you already have the gold?
 
Well the KV-220-2 is totally OP unless they know to shoot the turret. 9 games in it so far, 9 wins! The best was the last.....

It feels as though at T5 loads of people just use autoaim and as a result hit the hull.

The enemy KV-220-2 was shooting my lower plate lol - of all people, he should know better.

For the record that's 32 non-pen shots :-)

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well I stumped up for 11 boxes as I figured if nothing else it would give me some premium time while I am off for a couple of weeks at Christmas

got an e25 on my third box then another in the 5th! so it credited me gold for that then I got an improved sherman..which isnt great bit its something new

so for 17 quid ended up with 18 days premium an E25 (which I put the all female crew in from the christmas event) and 11500 gold...which I have no idea what I am going to do with...any suggestion for a good premium? or I might just save it until something comes up on offer

is there one tank thats a great all rounder? thats really worth having if you already have the gold?


Keep an eye on the advent calendar - circon is doing a review of every tank that comes up......
 
Well the KV-220-2 is totally OP unless they know to shoot the turret. 9 games in it so far, 9 wins! The best was the last.....

It feels as though at T5 loads of people just use autoaim and as a result hit the hull.

The enemy KV-220-2 was shooting my lower plate lol - of all people, he should know better.

For the record that's 32 non-pen shots :)

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I just picked one up in a xmas box but not taken it out yet.

Have been wanting one for ages and got it in my 2nd box, was well chuffed.
 
I'd almost rather get one of those than a T8 that gets +2 mm all the time.

Defenders are fab until they face T9/10 which at the moment they do 90% of the time.

The secret is to bait shots at your hull - play the noob, never side scrape, show them your angled lower plate it's all gravy.

With 9 wins from 9, I almost don't want to risk the 100% win rate lol
 
fender aced is pretty much impossible and if u can great and its all awesome cause i love me is-3

pretty sure u cant one 1 mark ore ace that Defender
 
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Researched and bought the JPanther II yesterday and I don't think I'm playing it aggressively enough to get the potential out of it at the moment, but I can't help but remember that its a Panther hull - so basically cheese. I did 85% of the grind yesterday after taking a risk and going for the 105mm gun rather than continuing to use the 88mm gun on the JPanther, but I ended up doing a hell of a lot better with it in the end. I had a fair few games where I did about 3k damage in it and actually came out top even when up against higher tiers - still not sure how. Ended up really liking the JPanther with that gun, so hopefully I can eventually get the same results with the JPanther II.

Today's grind is for the SU-101 and then its back to the grind for the T95 before I'll just play what I want with a bit of IS-4 grind on the side.

Also, cheers for the clan invite Hodders.
 
Researched and bought the JPanther II yesterday and I don't think I'm playing it aggressively enough to get the potential out of it at the moment, but I can't help but remember that its a Panther hull - so basically cheese. I did 85% of the grind yesterday after taking a risk and going for the 105mm gun rather than continuing to use the 88mm gun on the JPanther, but I ended up doing a hell of a lot better with it in the end. I had a fair few games where I did about 3k damage in it and actually came out top even when up against higher tiers - still not sure how. Ended up really liking the JPanther with that gun, so hopefully I can eventually get the same results with the JPanther II.

Today's grind is for the SU-101 and then its back to the grind for the T95 before I'll just play what I want with a bit of IS-4 grind on the side.

Also, cheers for the clan invite Hodders.
With the discounts and the insane amount of credits I've accumulated I bought the IS-7 and the JPather II this weekend.

Loving both, especially the IS-7. I'm not sure if it's just me but due to the events, most of the time my team has been something from outer space, however last night had some cracking games :)
 
Most of the time the Type4 is a pain. Slow, can't react etc. But every now and then....

First up isolated by a T30 - I'm a one shot. Need something special.....


Next up a squeeky moment on 9hp vs a scary T9 TD. Pleased with the reverse sidescrape :)

 
well with my mountain of bonus gold I went for a t54 mod 1 when it was on sale and had enough left over to get a t34-85m as well
crew already well on the way thanks to christmas and its just a tidy tank to use

the t54 and the e25 are amazing credit makers
 
Since the new MM was introduced in 2017, Type 59 sees constantly tier 9 battles, without any tier 7s most of them. Over the last course of the year only one battle was "of the old preferential MM" with their 6s under it.
The rest were tier 9s or full tier 8s. Even all tier 8 battles, is feeling very underpowered tank, compared to T44-100, T54Mod1, Progetto, Lorraine, T26SP, T25Pilot, even the Israeli M51 (named M4 Rev in game).

There are far superior tier 8, both normal and premium, that the Type is outmatched against. Even some Tier 7s like the Eagle and Panther M10, outmatch it.
Let alone P44s, Progettos, T54Mod, 432LT, or the gazillion tier 7 & 8 light tanks. When it was introduced, there were no autoloaders, nor light tanks over tier 6.

Is very easy to outmanouver and it's tough turret doesn't count for anything these days of gold spamming. The chassis is rotten, covered with fuel tanks, arty shots prone to take out 2 crew members also.
And god forbid don't get hit by an Japanese heavy tank, of O-I or better.

The engine HP nerf, the engine bhp nerf and the mobility nerf, completely made this tank a shadow of what it was.

As for "buffed gun", only the penetration is buffed. Gun handling is atrocious and cannot hit a moving target at 200m even today, with 6 skill crew like the one I have.
When it had the smaller (initial) gun, with the 175mm penetration, it was more accurate, and far far superior gun for taking out mediums and lights.

And saying again. Because I own both. For premium brawlers, T54Mod1 is far superior tank, even in tier 10 battles, than Type 59.
The former on tier 8 battles can carry the team also, even when 2/3 of your team are brain dead. If all tier 8s put together, Progetto/Pantera 44 are hands down the best Tier 8 meds, and WZ132 the best light-medium.

You've exaggerated a lot in this post.

Yes against tiers 8 and 9 there are better meds like the T44/100 etc but the whole idea is that you will never meet tier 10 and worst case scenario is 5 tier 9 tanks. The Type is perfectly capable in these match's and still very effective in a match with just tier 8 vehicles. The turret has no trouble bouncing shells and going hull down can work wonders. It's nice loading into a battle with a tier 8 tank knowing you won't be facing tier 10s!!

I almost stopped reading when you wrote that the Eagle and Panther M10 outmatch it. That's just LOL.

Firstly the Eagle is basically a weaker Super Pershing with almost the same matchmaking. It sees tier 9 just like the Super Pershing and its slow as hell. But it's a tier lower, has no armour or DPM and is basically an all round crap tank. Secondly, the Panther M10? LMAO, I sold my Panther M10 because it's trash. To be fair, I have the T23E3 which is almost like an American Panther M10 apart from it trades some armour for much better manoeuvrability and DPM. Panther M10 just felt so sluggish and useless in comparison. The Panther M10 comes nowhere close to the Type 59.

Since the buff, my Type 59 has become one of my favourite premium tanks after the Chinese tier 8 premium TD.
 
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