** Official World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria Thread**

[Cat_In_Pyjamas]

Hmm. I wonder who the villain is.

There is none. The expansion is focused on the war between the Horde and the Alliance.

You don't seem to be able to level the pets.

Eh? The pets will be able to gain up to 25 levels if I'm not mistaken.

No idea though you seem to come across as an expert on Furs but then again you're Polish so you're not all there.

U Borat bro?

Wait, what? My point was that the game already has enough content to get furries excited. Unless your point was that it will draw in people with a panda fetish? Even IF, most are highly unlikely to bother you in game so what's the problem? Surely a guy fapping in his room to a panda is less offensive than two horny teenagers having cyber sex with their night elves in goldshire inn?

Really not sure where your problem stems from, or what my nationality has to do with anything (P.S. Borat's from Kazachstan - quite the distance away from Poland, I assure you).

 

[Invertigo]

At the end of the day though, Blizzard are a business. They're out to make profit, so surely if they CAN charge £9 a month plus box sales, and still maintain a 10+ million customer base, why wouldn't they?

Making it 'free to play', or just relying on box sales would never attract enough new customers to make up for the millions lost each month in subscription fees, and people are happy to spend £25+ on every new expansion when its released.

 

[PaddyMC89]

I could care less if any other game kills WoW, I'm not bothered by its success or subscriber numbers at all.

You quite clearly are.

 

[franco_22]

Multiply by a 10 million subscriber base. Add the profit made from box sales to those subscribers.

Also do something that you still havnt and watch this simple video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns-IIn-DG-c

I watch that video already, I think that guy is an idiot sprouting Guild Wars propaganda... oh wait

Haha, why should you take into account how many subscribers they have, they are a business, they are interested in how much they make per customer, the fact that they have a 10 million customer base is only attributed to their enormous success and they shouldn't be penalized for it, they have a responsibility to their share holders. If Guild Wars is such an amazing and free game why are they so insignificant compared to WoW ?

 

[bhavv]

If Guild Wars is such an amazing and free game why are they so insignificant compared to WoW ?

I dont really understand how 6-7 million is so insignificant compared to 10 million, but believe whatever you want to believe.

The discussion also has absolutely nothing to do with Guild Wars ... Guild Wars is not the only free to play video game out there, you know that over 99.9% of video games actually dont charge fees right?

 

[Cat_In_Pyjamas]

I dont really understand how 6-7 million is so insignificant compared to 10 million, but believe whatever you want to believe.

Is that 6-7 million currently active accounts, or 6-7 million copies sold over 5 years (or however long it's been on the marker)?

 

[franco_22]

I dont really understand how 6-7 million is so insignificant compared to 10 million, but believe whatever you want to believe.

And how many play now or have played in the last few years ? Guild Wars has been dead for years, every single town you go to is always empty, the community is terrible as well, even worse then WoW which is hard to achieve.

 

[bhavv]

Is that 6-7 million currently active accounts, or 6-7 million copies sold over 5 years (or however long it's been on the marker)?

No one knows you see, because Guild Wars doesnt have fees therefore theres no way of counting active subscribers.

And how many play now or have played in the last few years ? Guild Wars has been dead for years, every single town you go to is always empty, the community is terrible as well, even worse then WoW which is hard to achieve.

Complete hogwash. The last few years have been Guild War's busiest, and the game has never been dead. There are more people playing it every day then there were before.

Most of the 'towns' in that game are pointless fillers, that not many people would be in because they are elsewhere or in an instance. You cant compare how active GW is by how full or empty the outposts are, because you dont play GW by standing around in the outposts.

 

[Cat_In_Pyjamas]

No one knows you see, because Guild Wars doesnt have fees therefore theres no way of counting active subscribers.

Surely arena net has means to quantify active users based on server activity?

 

[Frenzy]

"I'm going to kill them, I'm going to turn them into bacon"

That is all.

 

[bhavv]

Surely arena net has means to quantify active users based on server activity?

Well free to look it up yourself then and tell me. Guild wars is the second most active and profitable MMO out there to WoW, and it doesnt have fees. I really dont understand how anyone can view that as being insignificant to WoW.

 

[franco_22]

No one knows you see, because Guild Wars doesnt have fees therefore theres no way of counting active subscribers.

Oh for god sake, stop pulling **** out of your ***, Guild Wars was dead when I quit it like 3 years ago shortly after EotN came out, let alone now. The truth is, do you know what you pay for in WoW? Have you ever played WoW? You pay so you have more things to do then farm stupid pointless titles all day. The only thing Guild Wars had going for it was the PvP and ArenaNet did a great job out of killing it when they introduced retarded Paras and Dervs. Now WoW on the other hand is constantly innovating and creating new content, that's what people pay for, not to mention the support, Guild Wars doesn't even have official forums and you can't chat or get support from GMs online. WoW is like a service with all the premiums while Guild Wars is a game with just the basics, that's what you pay for.

 

[bhavv]

Franco, just because you quit GW doesnt make it dead.

The game is fully active whenever I log into play, I really dont get how you leaving means that game must have died.

Now WoW on the other hand is constantly innovating and creating new content

Oh right, you mean like copying Polymock from Guild Wars / Pokeball battles from pokemon right?

 

[Cat_In_Pyjamas]

The last few years have been Guild War's busiest, and the game has never been dead. There are more people playing it every day then there were before.

And I'm sure it has nothing to do with the hall of legends (or whatever it's called) that will let you get titles, pets and other such little perks in GW2 for completing objectives in GW1? A marketing catch! But it's okay because it's ArenaNet not Blizzard using it.

 

[bhavv]

And I'm sure it has nothing to do with the hall of legends (or whatever it's called) that will let you get titles, pets and other such little perks in GW2 for completing objectives in GW1? A marketing catch! But it's okay because it's ArenaNet not Blizzard using it.

All of that is fully optional, and isnt required of anyone to do. If people do want to do that however, they still dont have to pay anymore than the cost of the game (currently like only £20 for the complete edition?) to do it.

 

[franco_22]

Franco, just because you quit GW doesnt make it dead.

The game is fully active whenever I log into play, I really dont get how you leaving means that game must have died.



Oh right, you mean like copying Polymock from Guild Wars / Pokeball battles from pokemon right?

How about Guild Wars copying Alliance Battles from Wows battlegrounds?

In the software industry companies are going to copy stuff of each other all the time, it's what happens.

 

[bhavv]

How about Guild Wars copying Alliance Battles from Wows battlegrounds?

In the software industry companies are going to copy stuff of each other all the time, it's what happens.

I wasnt the one that claimed either game / company to be innovative (which WoW is most definitely not - as everyone knows, everything in WoW is copied from other games).

 

[bhavv]

I don't think you realise how much content is put into WoW and how many changes are made pretty much every month, even major content is released at least every 3-6 months. I don't play WoW any more, do you know why? Because it gives you so much freaking content you literally have to play 16 hours a day to do everything, if that's not value for money then I don't know what it is, I much rather pay £9 a month for something that can keep me entertained for nights and days then pay £45 for a game like Call of Duty which you can finish the campaigns in 4 hours and then you just shoot people over and over again.

Other MMOs which dont have fees pretty much have the same amount of content, heck, even a lot of single player RPGs that you pay for once and play forever do

So instead of apples to oranges, you go from comparing RPGs to FPS games

Funny.

 

[Cat_In_Pyjamas]

All of that is fully optional, and isnt required of anyone to do. If people do want to do that however, they still dont have to pay anymore than the cost of the game (currently like only £20 for the complete edition?) to do it.

Not required doesn't mean it won't attract sales. On a product that is 'soon' to be 'replaced' with its sequel. It's there to generate additional profit - that is my point.

 

[Cat_In_Pyjamas]

Other MMOs which dont have fees pretty much have the same amount of content, heck, even a lot of single player RPGs that you pay for once and play forever do .

Name them. And no, community mod support for single player RPGs doesn't count.