OLED 4K 30" 60 Hz - Dell UP3017Q

Carbon Copied · 14 Apr 2017 at 20:03

Daniel - LG said:
I have not found the answer funny today..............

@Daniel - LG are there any LG products in the pipeline in response to Dell's UP3017Q release - can the arms race to 100hz+ OLED/QLED now finally begin?

Dave2150 · 15 Apr 2017 at 09:49

spoffle said:
60hz is a bit of a disappointment.

+1, I think it's going to be another year at least before we see a 4K 32" IPS HDR 144Hz freesync panel. That's the one I'm waiting for

Until then my 2730Z 1440P 144Hz will tie me over.

Vega · 17 Apr 2017 at 01:30

Reading over the manual some items stuck out to me:

300 cd/m² (≤1% Load) maximum brightness and 120 cd/m² (100% Load). Automatic brightness control is not unexpected from an emmisive display, but I guess I will have to test how significant it is.

90 µs (micro-second) pixel transition speed, or less than 0.1ms. Way faster than other display types.

120Hz (selectable) - obvious typo or some strange low resolution capability. It IS interesting that it does list some lower resolutions at 75 Hz, such as 1280 x 1024. Will definitely be interesting testing the over-clock-ability of the different resolutions.

"OLED Monitor Quality and Pixel Policy" link doesn't seem to work.

"Flicker Free On eliminates flickering by doubling the screen frame rate." This one has me a bit worried. It is known that Samsung OLED displays in Laptops use PWM (240Hz) to prevent image retention. The wording of this isn't very clear. Doubling the screen frame rate? \

HACO · 17 Apr 2017 at 03:04

Vega said:
Reading over the manual some items stuck out to me:

300 cd/m² (≤1% Load) maximum brightness and 120 cd/m² (100% Load). Automatic brightness control is not unexpected from an emmisive display, but I guess I will have to test how significant it is.

90 µs (micro-second) pixel transition speed, or less than 0.1ms. Way faster than other display types.

120Hz (selectable) - obvious typo or some strange low resolution capability. It IS interesting that it does list some lower resolutions at 75 Hz, such as 1280 x 1024. Will definitely be interesting testing the over-clock-ability of the different resolutions.

"OLED Monitor Quality and Pixel Policy" link doesn't seem to work.

"Flicker Free On eliminates flickering by doubling the screen frame rate." This one has me a bit worried. It is known that Samsung OLED displays in Laptops use PWM (240Hz) to prevent image retention. The wording of this isn't very clear. Doubling the screen frame rate? \

I'll be posting a video review of this bad boy!

Can't wait!

fenchu · 17 Apr 2017 at 09:59

look forward to checking , congrats on purchase btw

Besty · 17 Apr 2017 at 16:16

I am cold on this monitor. Too big to be a monitor (IMHO), too small to be a TV, stuck at 60hz.

Will wait for reviews.

jubei · 17 Apr 2017 at 16:56

Besty said:
I am cold on this monitor. Too big to be a monitor (IMHO), too small to be a TV, stuck at 60hz.

Will wait for reviews.

If anything it's too small to be a 4k monitor. Would have preferred 40" for 4k but still, its a start.

Sampsy · 17 Apr 2017 at 18:32

@Vega Did the monitor arrive?

eddiew · 17 Apr 2017 at 21:23

Anyone else would like a QHD option with all other specs the same (and ideally a lower price)?

...I don't want to spend my life buying £1000 gpus to power it, and Windows UI scaling is terrible, yet basically mandatory at this ppi. QHD is fine at this scale, imho; roughly the same pixel density as a 24" 1080p.

Vega · 18 Apr 2017 at 02:07

Holy hell this thing is beautiful.... 5.4ms MPRT at 60 Hz! Gotta love near instant OLED pixels. It double strobes a 60 Hz input at 120 Hz for the great motion clarity.

Vega · 18 Apr 2017 at 03:12

By the way, neither HDMI 2.0 nor DP 1.2 allows this monitor to go over 60 Hz, at any time, at any refresh rate. It just frame skips. I use DP 1.2 as that allows 10-bit color, which HDMI 2.0 does now allow. Back after more testing...

TNA · 18 Apr 2017 at 08:20

Vega said:
Holy hell this thing is beautiful.... 5.4ms MPRT at 60 Hz! Gotta love near instant OLED pixels. It double strobes a 60 Hz input at 120 Hz for the great motion clarity.

Drool...

Does it have missing pixels or there are any other defects? With IPS you have backlight bleed or IPS glow for example, any weird ones for OLED?

Get some pictures up when you can

Besty · 18 Apr 2017 at 10:21

well if it's using backlight strobing then that is not great but i assume it can be toggled on and off (?) so not a biggie on that front.

Daniel - LG · 18 Apr 2017 at 11:10

Carbon Copied said:
@Daniel - LG are there any LG products in the pipeline in response to Dell's UP3017Q release - can the arms race to 100hz+ OLED/QLED now finally begin?

As far as I know, nothing soon, albeit I am trying to find out when/why

Nexus18 · 18 Apr 2017 at 11:22

Probably best keeping up to date with this thread:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1627849/oled-4k-30-60-hz-dell-up3017q/130

Vega's pics:

Those blacks :cool:

Oh and to answer my own question:

Nexus18 said:
Or are you just loaded?

Looking at this sig on overclock, 2x titan XP..... yup looks to be

Saw someone say that the input lag is around low 20ms??? So if true, essentially, the only reason to get this over a £1600 55" 4k OLED HDR TV is for where you don't have enough space for a 55" display.

Good news is that I can't see of any reports of burn in issues so far.....

EDIT:

And those viewing angles!

LCD is officially dead to me now!

Roll on OLED :cool:

Daniel - LG said:
As far as I know, nothing soon, albeit I am trying to find out when/why

34" 1440 OLED 60-100HZ freesync with LFC for <£1600, make it happen!

Sampsy · 18 Apr 2017 at 11:44

Those glorious black levels!

With space battles in Battlefront 2 and Star Citizen on the horizon I really can't picture myself getting any new monitor at this point which isn't an OLED, or has emissive pixels of some kind.

Nexus18 · 18 Apr 2017 at 11:48

Sampsy said:
Those glorious black levels!

With space battles in Battlefront 2 and Star Citizen on the horizon I really can't picture myself getting any new monitor at this point which isn't an OLED, or has emissive pixels of some kind.

Same!

LCD is a complete no go for me now, it is just dated tech plagued with issues and compromises (sure OLED will have some of its own issues but nowhere as bad as current LCD atm...)

Despite the price tag, I'm so glad dell have finally released this, it is going to make all current LCD monitors look pitiful and hopefully give the other manufacturers the kick up the ass that they need to really drive the monitor industry forward again.

ChrisD. · 18 Apr 2017 at 11:50

Vega · 18 Apr 2017 at 13:27

Besty said:
well if it's using backlight strobing then that is not great but i assume it can be toggled on and off (?) so not a biggie on that front.

There is no backlight with OLED. The strobing of the emissive pixels is by design to help ward off image retention. It also has the side effect of drastically increasing motion clarity. This monitor has no sample-and-hold mode at all. (flicker free).

TNA said:
Drool...

Does it have missing pixels or there are any other defects? With IPS you have backlight bleed or IPS glow for example, any weird ones for OLED?

Get some pictures up when you can

Zero defects. Packaging is quite beautiful too. You can tell Dell spent their time with this baby.

Does anyone know how to get into the service menu on a recent Dell display?

TNA · 18 Apr 2017 at 13:47

Oh my. That monitor oozes quality. Now that is what you call a monitor!

I would take that over adaptive-sync or extra hertz any day. But obviously would not hurt to have FreeSync 2 with it in the future

Vega said:
Zero defects. Packaging is quite beautiful too. You can tell Dell spent their time with this baby.

Does anyone know how to get into the service menu on a recent Dell display?

Thanks for the info. Got a Dell myself but not been into a service menu in a long time so it has likely changed.