Oscar Pistorius thread

dannyjo22 said:
Armstrong wasn't asked to give back his Olympic medal until after his Oprah interview. After he admitted cheating and doping.
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Sure, but he was stripped of his TdF wins. I know there are lots of differences between Armstrong and Pistorius' situations, but I was just making the point that an in competition positive isn't necessarily required (there are other examples of conviction through investigation rather than testing as well).
 
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Plausable. Just woken up, noise in the bathroom, get legs on, grab gun and shoot through a closed door without checking who it is..

Seriously I can see how it could be possible, but on the information we have, I really can't see him being innocent.
 
xibinim said:
So he didn't notice or check his girlfriend was in bed......hhhhhmmmm
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Yeah, seems a bit implausible that he would have got out of bed, gone to the window, put on his legs and picked up his gun without taking notice that she wasn't in bed. I'd also add that it has now been revealed that it in an en-suite bathroom with nowhere to go, so why would an intruder be in there, behind a closed door?

In the case of his defence though, their argument that it was a mistake and that he thought it was an intruder is all they can rely on, whether its true or not.

He is clearly guilty of killing her, the only way they can prove it was deliberate murder is whether there is any truth from other residents that an argument was going on beforehand. I'm sure forensic evidence and details about the bullets and how they were fired may later reveal information.

At this stage though, it would look from an observers perspective that its going to be difficult to prosecute that it was pre-mediated murder.
 
I'm accutely aware of people gaining entries to homes to commit crime, I've received death threats. BB

I sleep with my 9mm under my bed. I woke up to close the sliding door and heard a noise in the bathroom.

I was scared and didnt switch on the light. I got my gun and moved towards the bathroom. I screamed at the intruder

because I did not have my legs on I felt vulnerable. I fired shots through the bathroom door and told Reeva to call police.

I walked back to the bed and realised Reeva was not in bed. Its then it dawned on me it could be her in there.

I kicked the door open. Called paramedics and complex security. I tried to carry her down stairs for help

I tried to help her but she died in my arms.

with the benefit of hindsight I realise that Reeva went to the bathroom when I went to close the balcony door.
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Convenient set of events which are obviously not impossible but extremely improbable, I'm more interested in his explanation on the nights events that he gave to the police on the night and NOT after he has spoken to his high flying and no doubt very expensive lawyer!
 
Just to mention, he didn't put on his legs until after the shooting. He has limited mobility on his stumps. This could also be why he didn't notice the bed was empty.

It does sound plausible. It was a stupid thing to do (fire blindly through the door), but if he has been asleep his judgement may have been clouded.
We will see if there is any truth in the reports that the neighbours heard arguing before the gunshots. If that was earlier in the evening, after which he could have gone to bed, I'm not sure how the police can prove it as pre-meditated murder.
 
Nexus said:
At this stage though, it would look from an observers perspective that its going to be difficult to prosecute that it was pre-mediated murder.
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Exactly - they seem almost evangelical about it! Do him for manslaughter or a lower charge of murder if it exists. Seems very silly, almost as if they have something to prove to the world.
 
molinari said:
Just to mention, he didn't put on his legs until after the shooting. He has limited mobility on his stumps. This could also be why he didn't notice the bed was empty.

It does sound plausible. It was a stupid thing to do (fire blindly through the door), but if he has been asleep his judgement may have been clouded.
We will see if there is any truth in the reports that the neighbours heard arguing before the gunshots. If that was earlier in the evening, after which he could have gone to bed, I'm not sure how the police can prove it as pre-meditated murder.
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You're clearly a big Oscar fan:rolleyes:
The scum-bag is almost certainly guilty, the facts and logic simply don't add up or make sense!! I hope he rots in jail and the fact he has loads of money doesn't allows him to get away with cold-blooded murder :mad:
 
Nexus said:
Yeah, seems a bit implausible that he would have got out of bed, gone to the window, put on his legs and picked up his gun without taking notice that she wasn't in bed. I'd also add that it has now been revealed that it in an en-suite bathroom with nowhere to go, so why would an intruder be in there, behind a closed door?

In the case of his defence though, their argument that it was a mistake and that he thought it was an intruder is all they can rely on, whether its true or not.

He is clearly guilty of killing her, the only way they can prove it was deliberate murder is whether there is any truth from other residents that an argument was going on beforehand. I'm sure forensic evidence and details about the bullets and how they were fired may later reveal information.

At this stage though, it would look from an observers perspective that its going to be difficult to prosecute that it was pre-mediated murder.
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From his Affidavit, it sounds like he made the shots without having his legs on - hence using the cricket bat to open the door when he realised she wasn't in bed. if that was the case, I'd say he probably got his legs on just before picking her up and trying to get her downstairs.

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
You're clearly a big Oscar fan:rolleyes:
The scum-bag is almost certainly guilty, the facts and logic simply don't add up or make sense!! I hope he rots in jail and the fact he has loads of money doesn't allows him to get away with cold-blooded murder :mad:
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And you obviously have made your mind up based on the rubbish speculation from the press. Obviously he shot her, but I'd rather wait until the trial and the actual evidence to prove whether he meant to or not before I start judging.
 
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I really don't see how you would shoot into a room, through a closed door in your house, when you know you have at least one other person in the house with you....
 
I don't see why he would immediately think it was a burglar when he knew his girlfriend was in the house, I'd first just think that it was my partner and only when I see them lying in bed right next to me would I think otherwise.

I guess the prosecution think that he pre-meditated it to appear like he thought it was a burglar, because it's a bit hard to believe that someone would run around with a gun and be so trigger happy when they know full well that their partner is in the home, I think first thing you would do is check it wasn't them.
 
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Plus I have read reports that he didn't even call the police himself!!
Instead he called a family member and it was his neighbors that actually called the police!! (Something that can be easily confirmed/verified from phone records)

Yep that sounds like the actions of a innocent man :rolleyes:!! (If reports are accurate of course!)
 
mmj_uk said:
I don't see why he would immediately think it was a burglar when he knew his girlfriend was in the house
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This is why his lawyers no doubt told him to make up a story about closing the door! (Someone who is clearly as paranoid as him would never go to bed leaving doors open imho)
Unless he reported this to police at the crime scene I'm not buying it one iota !
 
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