Oscar Pistorius thread

Not sure what the laws are in SA with regards to 'acceptable force' but he could have just took cover outside the door ready for the intruder to come out and called for the security/police if possible, the intruder is hardly going to nick his bath & toilet is he.
 
Why does it have to be to do with being turned on, by not locking the door?

I know who is in my toilet... if I don't, id ask if needs be... if no one replied I wouldn't pull out a shotgun and unload a clip into the room and then go... oh damn the Mrs was in there.

Also was she taking a dump at the time? Do we know this for a fact?

Odds are IF she was in there for toilet purposes it was a quick pee... in, sit, pee, wipe, wash, out.... no need for locking in that scenario.

The door was locked for a reason... fear. Not toilet reasons, but fear of life reasons.

But you are now arguing about the "need" to lock the toilet, your previous post said anyone who did so was "strange". That's a different argument.
 
Plus if she was sat on the toilet any appreciable distance from the door, the odds of getting three hits through a presumably opaque door from from say at least arms length from the other side are pretty damn high.
 
So, my feelings so far.

He clearly killed her. Whether he murdered her or not is another question.

I can understand given his profile how he would feel vulnerable. Particularly in SA, and being disabled.
Shooting through the door then realising it might be her is a bit weak however. Again possible, but in this case much less unlikely.

It will also be interesting to see how the bullets went through.
Presumably if he didn't have his prosthetics on bullets would be going most upwards.

Also, firing three shots. I believe the first hit her hip, would be interesting to see if they're closely spread. I.e. he shot through the door, three shots around hip level and hit the rest of her as she fell. That on the other hand is a bit less implausible, but again, an interesting possibility where he would only be aiming to wound.

We don't really know enough to say what truly happened. Even at the moment, I'd say we don't have enough data, but, I find it hard that they would be able to disprove his story, regardless of whether he actually murdered her or not.

Basically it'll come down to forensics I suspect. As I pointed out above.

kd
 
Even at the moment, I'd say we don't have enough data

The above comments regarding locking the toilet door rather prove this since I am not convinced we even know that the door was actually locked. The affidavit merely states that he had to break down the door with a cricket bat. Was this because it was locked or because the lifeless body of this girlfriend was slumped against it?
 
Sky News said he used the cricket bat so maybe it was both.

Regardless, what's the importance of how he opened the door?

It's pretty damn important when he's shot her through the door moments earlier.

How he opened the door, why and at what point are all pretty critical to the verdict I would have thought.
 
I'm going with he beat her with the bat, dumped her in the toilet and blasted a few shots through he door to make it look less beaty.
 
Ive been with my girlfriend 6 years and she locks the door for a number 2.
I've been with my girlfriend for over ten years and she has never closed the toilet door at home, for either a number one or two :(. When it hits the water and makes that "plop plop" sound I cringe :o.
 
Ater all ive listened to and read, I'm completely clueless. Wouldn't want to be on that jury.

A South African reporter (I think) on Sky News earlier said that South Africa don't have a jury system, it's down to the magistrate and in some circumstances they might have a couple of advisers. So basically his fate comes down to one man it seems.
 
What kind of intruder locks themselves in the bathroom.

Is this a serious question? Maybe he didn't know it was locked at the point he believed it was an intruder. Maybe he only discovered it locked when he went to check on his girlfriend.

It's nice that everyone in here was able to be in court to hear the defense :p.

The media have reported what the defence position is. My comments relate to that.

It's pretty damn important when he's shot her through the door moments earlier.

How he opened the door, why and at what point are all pretty critical to the verdict I would have thought.

What difference does it make if he opened the door with his legs, arms or cricket bat?
 
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