Oscar Pistorius thread
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Soldato
This, at least a concept, will be the decider I feel.
There are enough discrepancies in the two arguments that one side will be able to be proven.
The latest one that's popped up is that the Police say Pistorius never reported the threats, the defence lawyer suggests that he did report it to a specialist police unit.
We'll be able to see whose story is true when there is more evidence. Until that point. He's on trial, and not guilty. Personally I love how many people have already decided he has, and I'm sure if he gets acquitted will put it down to him being guilty anyway and his lawyers as the reason he got acquitted. Either way this has cost him a lot reputation and financial worth wise.
Bail hearing will go into tomorrow.
kd
Soldato
My understanding is that the weapon that he killed her with (9mm pistol) was licensed; only the .38 ammunition that was discovered was unlicensed.
Soldato
Indeed. It was also suggested the ammunition was his fathers - although why he'd have it in his house/bedroom is another doubt altogether.
kd
You're speculating with 'screaming/heated argument would easily travel 600m in the dead of the night'. Consider how far 600m really is, basically just under the length of two Eifell Towers on top of one another. Not to mention the properties/houses, in the way that would dampen the sound.
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nevermind the echo you would get over a distance like that.
You might hear noises if they were loud enough, but no way would you be able to hear/make out what was being said.
I wonder how many intruders break into a house then lock themselves into a toilet cubicle whilst still undiscovered....
compared to how many domestic arguments happen and the woman runs off and locks herself into the toilet cubicle for self defence...
Just putting that out there.
Not to mention that if there was a so called arguement "it was inside the house" if anything the only thing open was the balcony door. There wouldn't be that much reverb in order for the sound to travel that distance.
Soldato
Don't worry ... I got this.
Just need a pic of a building's window within 6 miles. Zoom, enhance.
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Just putting what out there, in his version of events, he gets woken up, hears something, thinks there is an intruder, being South Africa, policy is shoot first, ask questions later.
You're about the 50th person I've see say what kind if intruder locks themselves in a toilet.... at what point between thinking there could be an armed intruder on the other side of a door, do you walk up to it(without legs no less) and see if it opens.
He wouldn't of, hears something, shoots, THEN checks the door, then breaks it down. It makes no sense he'd go, "I think there is a potential murdered right on the other side of this door, I'll just go up really close and jiggle the handle around a bit hopefully to open the door and get blasted away by the intruder".
If I was in his situation AND his story is true, I wouldn't open a door then blast away for protection, I'd shoot first, then maybe try the door, absolutely not the other way around.
Personally I don't care if he's guilty or innocent, I don't love the guy because he's got no legs, or I've seen him run all of 200m, being a runner doesn't to me make him a "good guy" like so many seem to think about random sports stars for no reason. But some of the silly things people say without thinking is ridiculous.
Many people have already made a decision on whether he is guilty or not.
Some things don't seem to add up, some of them not in his favour. That doesn't make him guilty of murder.
We don't know enough to make a decision, though I would suggest that his reputation is damaged beyond repair whatever the outcome.
Some things don't seem to add up, some of them not in his favour. That doesn't make him guilty of murder.
We don't know enough to make a decision, though I would suggest that his reputation is damaged beyond repair whatever the outcome.
SA and UK laws are very, very different.
Ever heard a gun firing?
Ever heard the echo?
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If he had "vast wealth" then why didn't he pay a hitman and make it look like a robbery gone wrong?
Did they test his hands/hair/skin and clothing for GSR?
Did they find his fingerprints on the murder weapon?
Do they have evidence the crimescene was cleaned up such as ammo casings missing?
Did they test his hands/hair/skin and clothing for GSR?
Did they find his fingerprints on the murder weapon?
Do they have evidence the crimescene was cleaned up such as ammo casings missing?
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Soldato
Even he is admitting he fired the shots, that part is clear.
It is more the issue as to whether he knew it was his girlfriend and intentionally shot her or if he really did think it was an intruder in his home and shooting his girlfriend was a mistake.
Soldato
It's just said on the radio that they were arguing and shouting loudly before the gunshots. I really don't see how there is any doubt as to what happened if that is the case.
Also the witness was apparently 300m away and not 600m.
Also the witness was apparently 300m away and not 600m.
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