Paris attacks.

[Gilly]

Since when did I mention a uniform? You're clearly generalising, and to hint at that is pretty poor in my opinion.

To hint at what? I'm telling you that it's very difficult to tell who is a terrorist and who is a civilian. You appear to be saying it is easy.

Is that what you are saying?

 

[bingham67]

4 policemen have been killed as 2 of the terrorists inside the Bataclan ignited their bomb belts.

Jeez horrendous

 

[Pawnless Endgame]

This massacre is one from a handful of recent events that gave rise to more right wing election victories across Europe.

Behave and integrate, or there will be more right wing victories. Simples.

 

[grudas]

Rip! I literally have no words for this.

 

[Gilly]

Those police that were so quick to react may have saved dozens of lives inside the theatre.

Heroes.

 

[setter]

This is bad bad business, and what'll be worse is the backlash, all the hate and fighting and it wont end until one of us has the brains (or balls) to stop hitting the other or until we abandon our civilised ways and revert to genocide.

RIP to those that have died needlessly unknowing soldiers in the war no-one can win.

This is what i fear. The backlash after such an attack. The possible rise of nationalist partys in europe, and perhaps the violence against the islamic population in europe. All because a few simple minded idiots wish to push their agenda using violence. As someone who grew up during the worst years of the troubles in northern ireland. Violence achieved nothing but dead people on each side. Rip to those who died tonight.

 

[StriderX]

This massacre is one from a handful of recent events that gave rise to more right wing election victories across Europe.

Behave and integrate, or there will be more right wing victories. Simples.

Trust me, that is simply acceptance, retaliatory pressure is amassing quicker than any 'election'.

 

[JetMars]

To hint at what? I'm telling you that it's very difficult to tell who is a terrorist and who is a civilian. You appear to be saying it is easy.

Is that what you are saying?

When did I ever say it was easy? You were the one who hinted at ISIS wearing uniforms.

 

[Seanspeed]

4 policemen have been killed as 2 of the terrorists inside the Bataclan ignited their bomb belts.

Horrible and unfair.

That said, there is no nobler way to die. True heroes.

 

[Gilly]

When did I ever say it was easy? You were the one who hinted at ISIS wearing uniforms.

You told me that the only requirement for telling the difference between someone in ISIS and a normal civilian was intelligence. I told you that they do not wear uniforms.

How do you tell the difference? I am keen to know.

 

[BusError]

Good mate of mine was with me this afternoon in Maidenhead, on his way back home in paris; left, too the eurostar, and couldnt get back into paris -- he had to go to his brother outside paris as his home is 50m from Bataclan. Close shave.

 

[Tefal]

I thought religion was about collective interdependent faculties and that a bad egg makes for a bad batch?

No?... Huh.

Want to put that in some form of coherent English?

 

[Christmas themed thank]

This is an incredibly upsetting and unsettling situation.

I believe there is a solution to this problem but it will take a lot of planning and cooperation between many governments and people. A knee-jerk reaction like happened in Iraq in 2003 is not what is needed here.

For now my thoughts are with those in Paris.

 

[philip2009]

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28814187&postcount=529

sad but true :/

There was already broad cross-party support, of course on the basis Snowden's leaks prevented intelligence gathering then May's proposals will also be avoided by terrorists - leaving just the general public and low level criminal idiots to be surveilled.

As for mass surveillance, it doesn't work, the NSA can explain better than me -

A new analysis of terrorism charges in the US found that the NSA's dragnet domestic surveillance "had no discernible impact" on preventing terrorist acts. Instead, the majority of threats over the last decade were detected by regular old intelligence and law enforcement methods—tips, informants, CIA and FBI ops, routine law enforcement.

The nonprofit think tank New America Foundation published a report today after investigating the 227 Al Qaeda-affiliated people or groups that have been charged for committing an act of terrorism in the US since 9/11. It found just 17 of the cases were credited to NSA surveillance, and just one conviction came out of the government's extra-controversial practice of spying on its own citizens. And that charge, against San Diego cab driver Basaaly *Moalin, was for sending money to a terrorist group in Somalia. There was no threat of an actual attack.

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/yo...lots-the-nsas-domestic-spy-program-has-foiled

 

[StriderX]

Want to put that in some form of coherent English?

What would you do if someone in your workplace stole from it, started a fire or indeed planned to deface it?

You'd report it or be complicit.

 

[Judgeneo]

This about sums it up. Stay strong, France.

I was thinking of just this.

We love to take jibes at each other in a way only the British and French could, but they're strong allies, and its right we give them our full support over this.

 

[Gilly]

I was thinking of just this.

We love to take jibes at each other in a way only the British and French could, but they're strong allies, and its right we give them our full support over this.

Absolutely. It's ok making political noises but as a country we must stand with France.

 

[Twirlywoos]

I bet half of the attackers will have walked there, unchecked thanks to merkel.

I also bet if the UK was attached to mainland europe, these attacks would have been in London, not Paris.

Just hope that platypus guy is not head of anything nevermind homeland security because he can't see how vetting immigrants is important in this day and age.

 

[dowie]

Those police that were so quick to react may have saved dozens of lives inside the theatre.

Heroes.

seconded

especially sad that at least 4 of them have died while willingly putting their own lives in danger to rescue others

 

[waspy88]

Samuel Huntington had this to say a while back..

“Islam's borders are bloody and so are its innards. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilisation whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power."

I am starting to see his point.