Caporegime
Your entire statement.
The nearest galaxy to ours is 2 MILLION ******* LIGHT YEARS AWAY. That's a 2 million year journey at the speed of light. Even Rroff's 70,000 year old aliens would struggle with that.
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Your entire statement.
The nearest galaxy to ours is 2 MILLION ******* LIGHT YEARS AWAY. That's a 2 million year journey at the speed of light. Even Rroff's 70,000 year old aliens would struggle with that.
AFAIK it is purely theoretical not kept up to speed on latest developments that might have invalidated or validated it but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgpVe2G9ByE
Caporegime
Let me know when this is proven science, not just a video from some random guy on YouTube.
Not entirely some random guy. The maths AFAIK is sound but there are the obvious issues with infinite delta-v, etc. that means there is no known way of achieving it.
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I think you need do a bit more reading.
The photons of the Sun coming to Earth. If you could somehow be them it wouldn't take a few minutes to reach earth. They don't experience time, they hit the earth instantly from their view.
Time stops as you reach speed of light for the traveller.
Here try this calculator.
https://www.emc2-explained.info/Dilation-Calc/#.Xq5zYqhKjqw
Example to travel 20k light years at 99.999% sol it would take 99 years. It is time dilation.
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Yeh, again you're taking the word literally so I see there's going to be little point in discussing this further with you as it is quite obvious you will not do so honestly. We both know this.
Haha you are so adamant of your knowledge on the unknown.
This appears to be a hard concept for you to grasp. Infinity is extremely large.
No, you mean you're unwilling to diverge from your initial statement when presented with potential options for alternatives. Nothing I have stated is impossible, and as an explanation it is also plausible. What have I said which you disagree with?
Well, if we don't take his word literally, in the sense that 'well, whatever he saw is rather vague and ill defined, and we can't really say anything specific here, or there' then what point is there, is taking anything he says with any shred of legitimacy at all?
If you're going to push the specifics of his observations under the table, you may as well ignore everything he says.
Erm no.
He mentions multiple times that the object took a second or more to leave his field of view, but due to him also using the word "disappear", and perhaps you also missed when he described it as "poof", you're disregarding the details of the story and we all know why: you took a position before you saw the interview and have since tried to nitpick. You are an extremely dishonest poster, I don't like discussing topics with people of your type.
He mentions multiple times that the object took a second or more to leave his field of view, but due to him also using the word "disappear", and perhaps you also missed when he described it as "poof", you're disregarding the details of the story and we all know why: you took a position before you saw the interview and have since tried to nitpick. You are an extremely dishonest poster, I don't like discussing topics with people of your type.
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There is also so many other stars they can visit, there is nothing special about ours.
I took a position, (as I do with any of these claims) that it's probably wrong until evidence shows that it might not be wrong.
I'm also being deadly accurate and specific and sticking to the original statements, there are two claims made by Fravor, firstly that the object accelerated so fast it disappeared.
Then a second claim, that if they were tracking the same object, then it would have to have been travelling at speeds around 42000 mph;
These two things are highly problematic, because one of them is impossible according to the known laws, the other one would require material and technology unknown to physics at this time, to achieve.
- Things cannot disappear
- There is no material known to physics which can move at 42000 mph through the atmosphere without being instantly destroyed.
Are you seriously missing the "accelerated" part in your own statement, or are you being disingenuous? Because you're coming across extremely dishonest and evasive.
Other than a mystical ability to vanish, rather than accelerate away extremely fast, there have been know physical laws broken. Only by your special interpretation.
Haha ok, because you know exactly what the unknown requires.
Lots and lots of strange denials and mental gymnastics going on in this thread.
Whether it accelerated to such a speed, or disappeared is neither here nor there, it doesn't matter. If Fravor's statement is taken literally, it would have to be operating beyond our understanding physics, full stop.
And consider this;
If I take what Fravor says literally, the whole thing is highly unlikely and almost certainly nonsense, because there's zero evidence for it, and it's beyond all realms of known possibility.
If I don't take what Fravor says literally, and I make inference either way, that 'some stuff happened' and don't examine any of the actual claims being made, things become vague and ill defined, then the whole thing falls down anyway - because nobody can say anything about it whatsoever.
The claims made by the pilot (Fravor) come with no video footage, the video footage was taken by a different pilot, showing something different, there is no video footage from Fravor.
Ok this is the last time for you, look at the posts of yours I originally quoted and replied too.
You have stated lots of times that something something can't break the laws of physics something something.
No one has mentioned anything which breaks those laws. When questioned on this you brought out a cherry picked colour statement focusing on the use of the word "disappeared" as some form of literal get out clause for your retarded argument when in actuality it was simply that, a colourful comment on what was seen to aid our interpretation of his experience. He mentioned the same incident multiple times and specified other details, but no, no good.
Dishonest people will stay blind.
Like mutiple radar, visual and thermal contacts from ground and air platforms by multiple trained and skilled individuals, contact made with multiple different sensors on different vehicles and visual sightings by pilots..
Personally I'd say they made it up, since the only other explanation would be ET..
If you read Fravor's comments and take them at face value (which we have to do, because there's no other way to verify them), the object is either breaking the laws of physics, or operating so far out of our knowledge of physics, it doesn't matter. I suggest you re-read the written accounts he gave, it might help guide your understanding of the significance of them, rather than simply trying to brush the specific details under the carpet, which you're repeatably doing, in a rather moronic way - and probably because you can't do anything else.
If this was a courtroom and we were trying to determine whether or not Fravor was telling the truth, we wouldn't be making assumptions on what he said, or drawing inference - we'd be focusing on the exact specific things he said, then looking at the evidence.
There is no evidence, none, nothing, zero.
Therefore - the only thing we have to go on, is his verbal account, so there's very little to go on anyway - whether or not you take it literally, and the moment you take it literally - it falls apart for the reasons I've laid out.
It depends which incident.
The problem is, there's a number of different incidents which occurred with different accounts at different times, but nothing very specific and only really in verbal statements - there's practically no evidence at all anywhere, other than the video - which again, doesn't really show anything unusual.
If you watched that video with no knowledge that it was the centre of a 'UFO' investigation, you probably wouldn't think anything special of it at all.
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And so are you funnily enough.
The difference is mine makes more sense than Aliens flying around the Galaxy in ships as big as cities dropping in on inhabited planets now and then.
Literally. Literally. Literally.
Ok then, when I was pulled by the police on my return journey a long time ago they said they were originally following me on my outbound journey but I was going so fast I disappeared.
Now do you understand?
This is tiring.
Your assertion they wouldn't be "messing about"?