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Would be one of the milder Grusch claims TBH.
So you’re dismissive of anything he’s said already?
While I certainly don’t fall into the category of believing him just because he’s said so, I’m also not going to out of hand dismiss his claims just yet.
 
It is true Pottsey. Out of the three men only Grusch made such claims.
That’s not true. Not only is Grusch backed up by people like Karl E Nell Army Colonel, Christopher Mellon Deputy Assistant security of defence of Intelligence, Jonathan Generational Officer of Intelligence and all the other big names. We have been told there are other whistle blowers and other people who worked with Grush have backed him up.

Take these direct quotes from the Congress Briefing.

Robert Garcia said “Now the sheer number of reports, whistle blowers, and stories of unidentified anomalous phenomena should raise real questions and warrant investigation and oversight. And that’s why we are here today.”
Notice they say blowers as in multiple.

Robert Garcia said “We know that whistleblowers have reported harassment intimidation or stigma as well. And this is not acceptable. If people can’t report incidents, which would have national security or safety implications”
again multiple whistleblowers
There should have been more witness's at the briefing but they got threatened and didn't turn up. Others wanted to stay anomalous due to the threats but it was confirmed there are more.

https://i.redd.it/mxyof0tlkwfb1.jpg This further backups Gruschs credentials.

Grusch and Jonathan Grey are confirmed then there was that guy who wanted to stay anonymous and had his face/body blacked out in the NY times article plus all the others they mentioned in passing but didn't go into details about.

Ryan Graves:"Certainly. Like many others, in twenty seventeen, I saw the New York Times article come out, as well. And for me, it was it was special because I recognized the voices on the video. I recognized the video itself. I had seen it when it was taken. I’ve seen it when it was debriefed"

Fair enough @Pottsey, he may actually know something - seems he gained rank of Major in the USAF, worked as a junior professor before doing a private sector gig and then worked NRA/NGO to "Colonel Equivalent" and USAF reserves gaining top secret and SCI clearance whilst living in lieutenant colonel quarters (if i've read the O4 in O5 billet part correctly).
Technically still only a Major though ;)

Out of interest, what is that document and who produced it? Was that a CV Grusch handed over in the hearings or something the hearings produced?
To be honest I cannot remember which one of the official briefings I saved that link from. His background was vetted before he was allowed to go to Congress. You might be interested in the data sheet posted above. https://i.redd.it/mxyof0tlkwfb1.jpg
 
That’s not true. Not only is Grusch backed up by people like Karl E Nell Army Colonel, Christopher Mellon Deputy Assistant security of defence of Intelligence, Jonathan Generational Officer of Intelligence and all the other big names. We have been told there are other whistle blowers and other people who worked with Grush have backed him up.

Take these direct quotes from the Congress Briefing.

Robert Garcia said “Now the sheer number of reports, whistle blowers, and stories of unidentified anomalous phenomena should raise real questions and warrant investigation and oversight. And that’s why we are here today.”
Notice they say blowers as in multiple.

Robert Garcia said “We know that whistleblowers have reported harassment intimidation or stigma as well. And this is not acceptable. If people can’t report incidents, which would have national security or safety implications”
again multiple whistleblowers
There should have been more witness's at the briefing but they got threatened and didn't turn up. Others wanted to stay anomalous due to the threats but it was confirmed there are more.

https://i.redd.it/mxyof0tlkwfb1.jpg This further backups Gruschs credentials.

Grusch and Jonathan Grey are confirmed then there was that guy who wanted to stay anonymous and had his face/body blacked out in the NY times article plus all the others they mentioned in passing but didn't go into details about.

Ryan Graves:"Certainly. Like many others, in twenty seventeen, I saw the New York Times article come out, as well. And for me, it was it was special because I recognized the voices on the video. I recognized the video itself. I had seen it when it was taken. I’ve seen it when it was debriefed"


To be honest I cannot remember which one of the official briefings I saved that link from. His background was vetted before he was allowed to go to Congress. You might be interested in the data sheet posted above. https://i.redd.it/mxyof0tlkwfb1.jpg

Only Grusch made claims of having evidence of criminality out of the three…

Did these others also make claims of having knowledge of government supported murders and assaults?
 
Grusch has made some outrageous claims. Claims that he must now back up. I expect it’s a case of how much of what has been stated is nonsense and can fact be separated from fiction.
well that's what i hope this hearing will achieve. he claims he's got the evidence to back up what he says so hopefully we get to see some of it, if it indeed does exist. whether it exists or not, or whether it even relates to alien type weirdness (i doubt it actually does) i have my doubts that joe public will get to see/hear it.
 
"Grusch says he has evidence of assaults and even murder. Did he go to the Police or FBI? Seems like he sat tight for a year or two until he could get himself on live television and announce this to the world."
Grusch followed the correct whistle-blower procedure in 2021 and informed the inspector generals who confirmed his evidence was credible
so he has credible evidence murder was committed? if so, that would surely be out in the open by now, or at least the name of the supposed victim would be?
 
so he has credible evidence murder was committed? if so, that would surely be out in the open by now, or at least the name of the supposed victim would be?

Seems so according to Pottsey.

Between Grusch, the whistle blower inspector general plus another dozen or so people they should have a strong case. Of course, the murders could be inter dimensional aliens though.
 
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Only Grusch made claims of having evidence of criminality out of the three…

Did these others also make claims of having knowledge of government supported murders and assaults?
Yes and some of them pulled out of the Congress hearing due to threats against them. There is an open and ongoing investigation.
 
I’’m more interested in the information provided to the hearing rather than attempts at childish petty digs at other posters.

That’s not what I’m doing. Grusch made claims of inter dimensional beings. That was information given at the hearing. The rest is according to Pottsey.
 
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That’s not what I’m doing. Grusch made claims of inter dimensional beings. That was information given at the hearing. The rest is according to Pottsey.
He claimed there was evidence of inter dimensional beings?? I definitely missed that part - I thought he’d merely suggested it as one option.
 
I believe Grusch said that was a aspect of what he uncovered.
Cheers, I’ll defo have to have a look for that. I know he mentioned some inter dimensional malarkey when asked for possible explanations to these ‘whatever they are’ - didn’t realise he was claiming to have actual documented info though ( relating to inter dimensional beings/craft)
 
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That's firmly in "taking the pee" territory, if it wasn't already. Might as well say they discovered a portal gun and it took them to a planet made of blueberry muffins.
 
That's firmly in "taking the pee" territory, if it wasn't already. Might as well say they discovered a portal gun and it took them to a planet made of blueberry muffins.
Yea that’d be my thoughts too - how the hell would we even know if something was ‘inter dimensional’ rather than just being plain old boring alien (assuming the ‘something’ even exists)
 
Cheers, I’ll defo have to have a look for that. I know he mentioned some inter dimensional malarkey when asked for possible explanations to these ‘whatever they are’ - didn’t realise he was claiming to have actual documented info though ( relating to inter dimensional beings/craft)

A suspiciously ambiguous explanation that makes investigating outlandish statements even more complicated. IMO.
 
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