Pentagon releases UFO footage

If your wife is calling you an alcoholic and need to get help, then he was probably not of sound mind at all.

Alcoholics generally live in their own fabricated world of lies, and it's pretty sad to see.

It doesn't disprove his claims outright, but it casts further doubt.
 
Seems like Grusch was detained in a psychiatric institution in the not too distant past.


Kind of destroys any credibility he has.
A lot of people see it the the other way around that it adds to his credibility as it confirms his legal complaint is real.

First of all, the background for 2018 is his close friend died and died in a pretty bad way. While he was grieving, he had depression and got drunk to deal with the grief. “substance abuse” was just him getting drunk after a close friend died. After the grieving period was over, he cleaned up went back to work had a full psychological assessment and was cleared as ok.

I am not saying drinking to deal with grief is the best idea. But come on, how many people have done that? If a friend got drunk for a week due to grief and then pulled them self-back together you wouldn’t normally call that substance abuse.

His legal complaint is there is a campaign against him and he is suffering reprisals for going down the whistle-blower pathway. The Journalist who wrote this let slip it came from the DOD. Grusch house was raided, his personal medical files have been leaked by the DOD to the press. I would say that confirms his reprisals complaint is real which help adds credibility to the rest of his claims.

One even has to wonder why are the DOD illegally leaking files on him and running a harassment campaign against him. There is now an open police investigation due to his files been leaked.
 
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A lot of people see it the the other way around that it adds to his credibility as it confirms his legal complaint is real.

When it turns out that David Grusch was 100% wrecked on coke all the time, lied about his age, shoe size and which school he went to - then you'll turn around and say "that actually makes his claims more credible" won't you, :D
 
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When it turns out that David Grusch was 100% wrecked on coke all the time, lied about his age, shoe size and which school he went to - then you'll turn around and say "that actually makes his claims more credible" won't you, :D
Of course not but even must be able to see how this article is pure sensationalist journalism twisting the truth. Calling someone who got drunk and got into a minor drunk argument with the wife after hearing a friend died in a bad way, a friend who had his back in Afghanistan “substance abuse” is pure sensationalist nonsense.

Grusch claims in his official legal complaint there are reprisals being targeted against him.
First Gruschs house is raided. 2nd A crappy journalist lets slip that he was leaked Grusch personal medical files by the DOD proving Grusch is telling the truth about targeted reprisals from the DOD.

So you don't think the DOD leaking Grusch personal medical information to the journalist helps make Grusch legal complaint claim more credible that he is being targeted for going down the whistle-blower pathway? Is that really what you are saying?
 
First of all, the background for 2018 is his close friend died and died in a pretty bad way. While he was grieving, he had depression and got drunk to deal with the grief. “substance abuse” was just him getting drunk after a close friend died. After the grieving period was over, he cleaned up went back to work had a full psychological assessment and was cleared as ok.
Yeah going after him because he was a veteran who had PTSD, is pretty low, so all vets who have had PTSD are now insane, incapable of recovery and liars ? Because that's what this "journalist" is trying to suggest
 
Until the public has seen proof confirming what Grusch is saying is true, it is all just talk. Him having been commited certainly doesn't help his credibility.

The UFO community are really upset about this article as they too know deep down that their belief in Grusch's claims have taken a knock.

The fact that Grusch associate's with the likes of Corbell, Knapp and Elizondo make his claims seem even more suspect.

I want to believe but I doubt Grusch's claims are going to lead to disclosure.
 
Until the public has seen proof confirming what Grusch is saying is true, it is all just talk. Him having been commited certainly doesn't help his credibility.

The UFO community are really upset about this article as they too know deep down that their belief in Grusch's claims have taken a knock.

The fact that Grusch associate's with the likes of Corbell, Knapp and Elizondo make his claims seem even more suspect.

I want to believe but I doubt Grusch's claims are going to lead to disclosure.
He hasn't taken a knock. In fact its backfiring as people are seeing this as an attack against Veterans. A veteran who had PTSD and went to get help and recovered is what should happen. Leaking out personal files and attacking veterans for seeking help and recovering is wrong. It also proves Grusch claim via his legal complaint is real. Who ever came up with this idea to discredit Grusch has made a major mistake as this has proved Grusch was telling the truth.
 
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He hasn't taken a knock. In fact its backfiring as people are seeing this as an attack against Veterans. A veteran who had PTSD and went to get help and recovered is what should happen. Leaking out personal files and attacking veterans for seeking help and recovering is wrong. It also proves Grusch claim via his legal complaint is real. Who ever came up with this idea to discredit Grusch has made a major mistake.

A veteran of what? Sitting in an office typing reports 9-5? Living a comfortable life in Washington or where ever he was based?
 
He hasn't taken a knock. In fact its backfiring as people are seeing this as an attack against Veterans. A veteran who had PTSD and went to get help and recovered is what should happen. Leaking out personal files and attacking veterans for seeking help and recovering is wrong. It also proves Grusch claim via his legal complaint is real. Who ever came up with this idea to discredit Grusch has made a major mistake as this has proved Grusch was telling the truth.

The only people who think this FOIA release has backfired are UFO nuts. The vast majority of people have never even heard of Grusch.

People taking a balanced view of this saga will most likely view him being committed as a knock against his credibility.

If some real proof comes out into the public domain then that's great. Until then, any sensible person should take everything Grusch has claimed with a shovel full of salt.
 
A veteran of what? Sitting in an office typing reports 9-5? Living a comfortable life in Washington or where ever he was based?
Well I see you show as much respect to decorated combat officers during the War in Afghanistan as you do to everyone else. There goes the very last off your credibility.
 
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Well I see you show as much respect to decorated combat officers during the War in Afghanistan as you do to everyone else. There goes the very last off your credibility not that you had much left.

You see only what you want to believe, Pottsey.

Maj. Grusch the hero of Afghanistan?
 
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Yes he was a decorated combat officer in the Afghanistan war. You need more then a bit of self reflection on that statement. "You see only what you want to believe,"
Grusch is a man that’s made wild claims. A man that has put himself and his reputation out there for discussion. Now the world is having that discussion.
 
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Grusch is man that’s made wild claims. A man that has put himself and his reputation out there for discussion. Now the world is having that discussion.
That doesn't change the fact you have been wrong many times and yet again you are wrong and are now being disrespectful towards a Veteran who served and was decorated for his service.
 
Yes he was a decorated combat officer in the Afghanistan war. You need more then a bit of self reflection on that statement. "You see only what you want to believe,"

My mate has got about 10 medals across his chest when he attends Armistice Day but they are to say he has served there, it doesn't mean he's picked a rifle up.
Yes he deserves respect for going into those areas but like he says "I've never done anything".
All those homeless veterans have all been decorated even if they did nothing, that's not to say they don't deserve my respect like Grusch deserves it.
I can't find anything about Grusch's medal other than he was there.
 
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My mate has got about 10 medals across his chest when he attends Armistice Day but they are to say he has served there, it doesn't mean he's picked a rifle up.
Yes he deserves respect for going into those areas but like he says "I've never done anything".
All those homeless veterans have all been decorated even if they did nothing.
I can't find anything about Grusch's medal other than he was there.

The US, give awards out cheaply, even awards for training, flying over combat areas. The phrase veteran is also used very liberally, something Pottset seems to have latched onto.
 
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My mate has got about 10 medals across his chest when he attends Armistice Day but they are to say he has served there, it doesn't mean he's picked a rifle up.
Yes he deserves respect for going into those areas but like he says "I've never done anything".
All those homeless veterans have all been decorated even if they did nothing, that's not to say they don't deserve my respect like Grusch deserves it.
I can't find anything about Grusch's medal other than he was there.
All the background documents mention he is decorated but don't go into details. I did find these photos which is enough to prove Jigger comments are disrespectful and false.

 
The fact that one man, says he heard somebody say there are crashed flying-saucers and "non-human" pilots, or whatever - and didn't even see them himself, let alone show any evidence - can cause this much aggro, it's amazing.

How anyone can have this much blind faith in this one person's statement, is just bizarre.
 
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