Pentagon releases UFO footage

Roar87 said:
I would suggest that any civilisation travelling the galaxy or beyond won't be using conventional engines to propel matter in a way that we understand as the energy requirements are infinite moving at c, they'll use some other form exotic travel to bend space or alter how matter interacts with space, there's plenty of theoretical explanations
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Just because Einstein gets a piece of paper and write A at one end and B at another and bends A so it's touching B it doesn't mean it can happen, it's just a theory.
 
jigger said:
You don’t say. But if we take these claims as true these advanced beings and fantastic craft can’t land these things for toffee. Apparently they are just falling from the sky all over the world.
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lets for a bit of craic pretend this is all true......one explanation for these 'crashed' craft could perhaps be that these Aliens are literally just at the breakthrough stage of the development of FTL travel (or whatever means they are using) maybe sending these craft/things/whatevers our way is just their first tentative steps in their techs ability to travel vast distances.
 
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keyser van someone said:
Did he give the location of the UFO under a house?
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Publicly he said he would. We don't know what was provided as its classified. Which makes you wonder why it was classified. Instead of saying there is no evidence as there clearly is of some sort. You should be asking them see the classified evidence. If there is nothing to what he is saying why is he forbidden to publicly talk about it?
 
Pottsey said:
He did more then just go under oath. Behind closed doors he spent 11 ish hours handing over documents, giving dates, details, projects, people involved, locations, evidence. Plus Congress took a field trip to see some of the evidence first hand themselves and said the evidence is real.
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I'm not disputing the grandness of the claims. They are very grand indeed.

The grandness of the claims do not replace the lack of evidence.
 
Thekwango said:
lets for a bit of craic pretend this is all true......one explanation for these 'crashed' craft could perhaps be that these Aliens are literally just at the breakthrough stage of the development of FTL travel (or whatever means they are using) maybe sending these craft/things/whatevers our way is just their first tentative steps in their techs ability to travel vast distances.
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Maybe, but you’d think any race intelligent enough to overcome faster than light travel would have figured out atmospheric landing long before then.
 
jigger said:
Grusch was refused access to something, so his security clearance was limited or he would have had direct access.
Grusch states (himself) his evidence is based on hearsay and documents handed to him from his superiors, that he himself has no way to verify because of his clearance level, details of which that originated from third parties working at other agencies he has not been party to. Grusch has never laid eyes on the craft or beings he claims to be real and not single document, persons name, government program or company can be shown, because it’s classified. He couldn’t redacted a single document. You don’t find any of this questionable?

And his is just small part for why he is questionable.
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Grusch was refused access to an illegal SAP project that he found and tasked with finding and should have had access to with his top level security clearance. He wasnt blocked because he didn't have security clearance. He was blocked because it was an illegal SAP being hidden from Congress against the Congress rules. That is why his claims are real and serious. There was no level of security clearance above what Grusch had. He had the max possible level because he was in a very senior role.

Your lying that Grusch had no way to verify and that all his access originated from third parties. That is not correct. His job was to directly verify the data and view it. That was his job and security clearance level to do that. Grusch confirmed he verify a lot of the data in his job to review the projects. His claims are not based on faith and belief in other its based on his job to review and access SAP projects.

Also I am still waiting for you to show me evidence of this dispute of him heading an office by the office he reported to. Let me guess you cannot give any evidence as its another fake claim you made up.
 
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Pottsey said:
Grusch was refused access to an illegal SAP project that he found and tasked with finding and should have had access to with his top level security clearance. He wasnt blocked because he didn't have security clearance. He was blocked because it was an illegal SAP being hidden from Congress against the Congress rules. That is why his claims are real and serious. There was no level of security clearance above what Grusch had. He had the max possible level because he was in a very senior role.

Your lying that Grusch had no way to verify and that all his access originated from third parties. That is not correct. His job was to directly verify the data and view it. That was his job and security clearance level to do that. Grusch confirmed him verify a lot of the data in his job to review the projects.

Also I am still waiting for you to show me evidence of this dispute of him heading an office by the office he reported to. Let me guess you cannot give any evidence as its another fake claim you made up.
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Your optimism is inspiring.
 
jigger said:
Your optimism is inspiring.
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Its got nothing to do with optimism, its about fact and truth not the fake claims and lies you keep spreading. There is a reason why I back up my posts with links and evidence why you refuse every single time. So basically I take it you lied and that claim you made is fake like the other claims you made turned out to be fake. That's why you cannot give me the link/evidence I asked for.
 
Pottsey said:
Its got nothing to do with optimism, its about fact and truth not the fake claims and lies you keep spreading. There is a reason why I back up my posts with links and evidence why you refuse every single time. So basically I take it you lied and that claim you made is fake like the other claims you made turned out to be fake. That's why you cannot give me the link/evidence I asked for.
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Let’s play ture or false then.

I claim Grusch has publicly made many extraordinary claims and shown zero proof

True or False?
 
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