Pentagon releases UFO footage

SpellowHouse said:
If recent thinking is correct, intelligent species are far apart. Too far for them to know about us yet, or for them to travel here.
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If there is any other intelligent life.
Life is one thing but intelligent life is another ballpark when it took us 5 billion years to be able to do what we do and that only happened because of other mass extermination events.
Intelligent life at the same time than us is on another scale
and of course distances would make it impossible.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Life is one thing but intelligent life is another ballpark when it took us 5 billion years to be able to do what we do and that only happened because of other mass extermination events.
Intelligent life at the same time than us is on another scale
and of course distances would make it impossible.
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You are forgetting that these numbers only apply to an Earth sized planet in the habitable zone of a main sequence star. We simply don't know what time of acceleration could be possible on another planet with a more exotic star in another solar system out there with materials more abundant than what we've had to go through ocuntless revolutions in civilisation to get where we are today. Evolution as we know it won't be the same in the neighbourhood of Proxima B, for example.
 
mrk said:
We also discovered quantum entanglement from Einstein's theory of Spooky action at a distance, where 2 entangled particles know each other's states regardless of how far apart they are. And then there's the discovery of particles that "change" when observed only (look up the double slit experiment) - Nobody knows how or why this happens, but there is clearly a fundamental fabric of the universe beyond our known dimensions holding things together and allowing some form of connection between everything.

So yeah there is some super crazy things left to discover and we will for many of them, we are just not advanced enough yet.
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But none of that is new.

It's true that we understand it better than we used to, but it's all 100 year old stuff. As you said yourself, Einstein was discussing this stuff.

There isn't even any reason to suppose the Dark Matter or Dark Energy is not just a refinement of something that we already know.


SexyGreyFox said:
If there is any other intelligent life.
Life is one thing but intelligent life is another ballpark when it took us 5 billion years to be able to do what we do and that only happened because of other mass extermination events.
Intelligent life at the same time than us is on another scale
and of course distances would make it impossible.
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Agreed. There are plenty of planets, so I think life is probably common, but when you look at the incredible luck we have had in our evolution it's miraculous that we here at all. The formation of Earth and a sequence of events that were highly unlikely seem to be almost essential for our existence. It hardly surprises me any more that the galaxy is not filled with spaceships.
 
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It's not something we already know otherwise the hundreds of thousands if not millions of scientists who have been looking into it all since it ever started out as a theory would have figured that out by now along with more recent years, AI systems doing all the computational work. Over 85% of the known universe consists of matter we can't currently comprehend, but we know it exists.
 
arknor said:
They'd likely be autonomous and pretty small.

but UFos are often these few mile long craft etc.... or covered in lights, cos you know in space you need warning lights its really busy up there
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That's what they are pretty small. For the real UAP's from the government data which is based of multiple sensor platforms. Its clear the average typical reported size is 1 to 4 meters without lights, flying at up to high Mach speeds usually between 20k to 40k altitudes although 15% are as low at 15k. Intermittent on thermal with an unknown propulsion system. Majority of UAPs are round/sphere and small.
 
There must be an inner circle of UAP enthusiasts that work really hard to make these images and background stories so they can feed them to the rest of the UAP community. It's an art form that deserves some respect, you have to create an enhanced zoom that is both good and terrible at the same time.
Joxeon said:
Must be strong to take a missile, crash land and not even break up or explode.
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And not bother to jam the missile or cloak/pop back out of this reality and into a universe made of jam using their real jam tech they clearly have onboard their real spacecraft/tictac/jam. Jam.

It would be like me successfully taking out a $2bn stealth fighter with a catapult that I got from my happy meal.
 
keyser van someone said:
There must be an inner circle of UAP enthusiasts that work really hard to make these images and background stories so they can feed them to the rest of the UAP community. It's an art form that deserves some respect, you have to create an enhanced zoom that is both good and terrible at the same time.

And not bother to jam the missile or cloak/pop back out of this reality and into a universe made of jam using their real jam tech they clearly have onboard their real spacecraft/tictac/jam. Jam.

It would be like me successfully taking out a $2bn stealth fighter with a catapult that I got from my happy meal.
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You sound like a conspiracy theorist. These are not fake background stories and the events are not made up by an inner circle of UAP enthusiasts. These are real events that happened back up by lots of evidence and data. It was all over the mainstream new channels with press conferences from the military.

“It would be like me successfully taking out a $2bn stealth fighter with a catapult that I got from my happy meal.”
Your trying to making something perfectly reasonable sound unreasonable. This event was more like a squadron of NORADF-22 Raptors with a squadron of Canadian CF-18 Homets backed up by a NORAD tracking facility taking out a single skunkworks style spy craft from a rival nation flying at 40,000 feet. If you had bothered to read the report you would know the object did jam some some of the fighter jets and missiles and the NORAD base did lose power. But the base had a backup power supply which kicked in and the other none jammed fighters got the missiles off. It was a single unmanned drone style craft v two Squadrons and a tracking base relaying extra data.
 
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I think a lot of confusion over this topic comes when people assume this phenomenon is caused by extraterrestrials flying around in technological spaceships.

Nobody close to the subject from the DOD is claiming that. There appears to be a good reason that the broader term "Non-human intelligence" is being used.

I can guarantee this will become more relevant as we start to get better information declassified.
 
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About the James Webb telescope. Absolutley blown away by this picture

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Especially when you consider how "small" an area of our night sky it shows.. A grain of sand held at arms length.. Crazy
 
MookJong said:
I can guarantee this will become more relevant as we start to get better information declassified.
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Can I get a receipt for my guarantee, because 14 months ago you said this:
MookJong said:
If I were you I would leave this thread and come back next year because the whole debate hinges on the idea that substantive evidence has been classified and hidden from public view.
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And we seem to be no further along, still the same low quality bs pics of nothing meaningful.
 
Felon said:
Can I get a receipt for my guarantee, because 14 months ago you said this:


And we seem to be no further along, still the same low quality bs pics of nothing meaningful.
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The fact is we are further along, the topic is much more part of the public zeitgeist now. We have policymakers involved at the highest levels of the US government and a bigger effort than ever to get materials declassified.

Yes it is a long and frustrating process, everything appears to lean on "trust me bro" but you cannot deny the direction of travel.
 
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mrk said:
It's not something we already know otherwise the hundreds of thousands if not millions of scientists who have been looking into it all since it ever started out as a theory would have figured that out by now along with more recent years, AI systems doing all the computational work. Over 85% of the known universe consists of matter we can't currently comprehend, but we know it exists.
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Well, if the theory was developed in 1920, then I would say it is something we already know, and have known for a very long time. We may be lacking detail and proof, but that's another matter.

Because we don't understand DM and DE doesn't mean they are something completely new that upends all of science. At the moment, the leading theories are all based on what we already know, with a few tweaks here and there.

We have spent 100 years, now with AI and computers, and yet haven't really moved physics on at all. Meat on the bones, but no new bones. The application of physics, yes, that has moved on a lot. Astronomy is particularly interesting right now. But physics, nope, hardly anything, despie all the effort.
 
Disclosure is taking longer than I thought it would after 2017. I'm not sure how many of you have seen Col Karl Nell's presentation at Stanford last year but this should give you an idea of the timescales involved and how this can be done right.

 
Pottsey said:
You sound like a conspiracy theorist.
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Pottsey said:
These are not fake background stories and the events are not made up by an inner circle of UAP enthusiasts. These are real events that happened back up by lots of evidence and data. It was all over the mainstream new channels with press conferences from the military.
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Do you have a link to the military press conference or is it just this link to this mysterious link on the online internet archive? If it had .gov on the end of the URL or some other reputable site I can take the information more seriously.

So far I see:
size: unknown
speed: unknown
jamming method: unknown
material: unknown
shape: tictac
current location: unknown
photo: blurry

questions?: erm yeah, more information would be great please.

Should I try and find this information for myself? maybe if I was more interested.
 
keyser van someone said:
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Do you have a link to the military press conference or is it just this link to this mysterious link on the online internet archive? If it had .gov on the end of the URL or some other reputable site I can take the information more seriously.

So far I see:
size: unknown
speed: unknown
jamming method: unknown
material: unknown
shape: tictac
current location: unknown
photo: blurry

questions?: erm yeah, more information would be great please.

Should I try and find this information for myself? maybe if I was more interested.
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As per usual I already provided you the official declassified military material with all the information we have on the event. The file has been verified as real. That’s why I made fun of the people pretending this is all not real.

What started all this was the Chinese Spy Balloon which causes the various militarys to adjust and upgrade their sensor platforms. After that first Spy Balloon was shot down sensor platforms got upgraded and all these various unknown small UAPs that are not spy balloons that used to slip under the radar got spotted and intercepted. The UAPs are not described as Balloon but far smaller 1 to 4 meters often the size of a car, octagonal and cylindrical metal objects with an unknown propulsion system.

To quote VanHerck "We're calling them objects, not balloons, for a reason.”
“These objects did not closely resemble, and were much smaller than, the [4 February] balloon “

Which is why I made fun of the people who don’t think its real or think it’s all toy models.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64620064

You know what I think they are, unmanned spy drones from a rival nation using a new classified military technology this is ahead of what the public have access to. But that’s too much apparently for some people on here who have to pretend its all fake and made up. UAPs are real. While what they are is up for debate, at this point in time denying UAPs are real is the same level of conspiracy theorist who denies COVID is real.
 
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