Pentagon releases UFO footage

Great interview with Dr Garry Nolan the Stanford professor who has been studying brain injuries for the Government in people who have had close encounters with UFOs.


He also talks about his work with congress to push for transparency and his thoughts on where disclosure goes next.
 
Wouldn't Roswell be considered the #1 UFO story? And we're meant to believe that Aliens that have mastered intergalactic travel by travelling billions (potentially more) of miles to get here just somehow lost the ability to control their craft once they got to earth?

Why are so many ufo sightings basically lights in the sky? Would aliens that advanced really need running lights on their ships like they haven't got some super advanced sensors that makes needing blinking lights on ships as a visual identifier pointless? The whole blinking light thing just seems to be people somehow assuming tech that we have would also be used by aliens far more advanced, if they have a sort of warp drive i really doubt they would need something as primitive as blinking lights as a visual identifier.

I don't doubt there's alien life out there, i just doubt they've been arsed to come here to cornhole hillbillies and cattle with probes for the craic.
 
That's cause loads of Chinese lanterns and plane lights are mistaken for UFOs.

But at the same time, what if UFOs don't see in the same light spectrum as us? Maybe they have no idea that they're super plasma dark matter engines are even blinking?
 
ChroniC said:
That's cause loads of Chinese lanterns and plane lights are mistaken for UFOs.

But at the same time, what if UFOs don't see in the same light spectrum as us? Maybe they have no idea that they're super plasma dark matter engines are even blinking?
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If theyre smart enough to create a warp drive of sorts surely they're smart enough to have that sussed as well?
 
Gerard said:
Wouldn't Roswell be considered the #1 UFO story? And we're meant to believe that Aliens that have mastered intergalactic travel by travelling billions (potentially more) of miles to get here just somehow lost the ability to control their craft once they got to earth?

Why are so many ufo sightings basically lights in the sky? Would aliens that advanced really need running lights on their ships like they haven't got some super advanced sensors that makes needing blinking lights on ships as a visual identifier pointless? The whole blinking light thing just seems to be people somehow assuming tech that we have would also be used by aliens far more advanced, if they have a sort of warp drive i really doubt they would need something as primitive as blinking lights as a visual identifier.

I don't doubt there's alien life out there, i just doubt they've been arsed to come here to cornhole hillbillies and cattle with probes for the craic.
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Roswell - There is no evidence UFOs are travelling billions of miles. If you actually take a look at the current thinking, there are far more options on the table than intergalactic space aliens.

Yes, some UFOs appear as glowing, but many are not. For example, all the reports coming from the US Navy since 2004 that made the headlines do not involve glowing or blinking objects. Blinking lights reports are almost certainly just misidentified aircraft.
 
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Gerard said:
Such as?
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Humans from the future :D or peoples imaginations running wild for some attention seeking internet fame.

In before: but you wouldn't be able to travel back in time to before time machines were invented, therefore hitler must have invented time travel during ww2 and now likes to come back and watch
 
Gerard said:
Such as?
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Undiscovered natural phenomenon - As was Sprite lightning, which was documented for years, but only first photographed in 1994. In 2000 the UK MOD concluded in the Project Condign report that UFOs were "indisputable" and that many of these objects could be a plasma based energy with the ability to adversely affect technology and people who come in contact with it. Also see the "Hessdalen lights" in Norway.

An artefact / insert / bug of a simulation theory universe

Cryptoterestrial - An undiscovered species or intelligence we share the planet with

Interdimensional - Artefact from one of the 26 dimensions of string theory

Extratempestrial - Something from an overlapping time

I think you need to get away from thinking there are little men in ships and think more about how an AI or undiscovered life form might operate in the universe.

I understand why all of this seems completely bat **** mental to an onlooker. The problem with this phenomenon is that it is not something that can be easily studied with the scientific method. How do you create lab conditions and repeatability for testing? What I would say is take note of what the US Congress are doing, what NASA are doing, what Nobel Prize nominated Garry Nolan is doing and what AARO the DOD agency setup last month to uncover the source of this phenomenon are doing.

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DoD Announces the Establishment of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office

The Defense Department announced the establishment of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office.
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Disclosure that a phenomenon exists has already happened. It is going to take people time to get their head around it and that is understandable, but to brush it off is a mistake. If you want to be ahead of the curve look into it because this topic isn't going away.
 
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Undiscovered natural phenomenon - As was Sprite lightning, which was documented for years, but only first photographed in 1994. In 2000 the UK MOD concluded in the Project Condign report that UFOs were "indisputable" and that many of these objects could be a plasma based energy with the ability to adversely affect technology and people who come in contact with it. Also see the "Hessdalen lights" in Norway.

An artefact / insert / bug of a simulation theory universe

Cryptoterestrial - An undiscovered species or intelligence we share the planet with

Interdimensional - Artefact from one of the 26 dimensions of string theory

Extratempestrial - Something from an overlapping time

I think you need to get away from thinking there are little men in ships and think more about how an AI or undiscovered life form might operate in the universe.

I understand why all of this seems completely bat **** mental to an onlooker. The problem with this phenomenon is that it is not something that can be easily studied with the scientific method. How do you create lab conditions and repeatability for testing? What I would say is take note of what the US Congress are doing, what NASA are doing, what Nobel Prize nominated Garry Nolan is doing and what AARO the DOD agency setup last month to uncover the source of this phenomenon are doing.

www.defense.gov

DoD Announces the Establishment of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office

The Defense Department announced the establishment of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office.
www.defense.gov

Disclosure that a phenomenon exists has already happened. It is going to take people time to get their head around it and that is understandable, but to brush it off is a mistake. If you want to be ahead of the curve look into it because this topic isn't going away.
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This is quite interesting. My wife is a translator and has been saying that over the past few weeks she has been getting more and more projects focusing on aliens and alien life. She remarked that these large companies [who will remain nameless] are easing the public into some kind of disclosure.

However, on OCUK there are plenty of people who will just stick their head in the sand and say nothing is provable yet. As much as ten years ago here I was saying, just as you are, that these are likely not standard measurable phenomena by the metrics we are used to. Change will be generational - a lot of the boomers and X-ers will not be able to get their heads around this and will mostly exist in denial - Y/Z are more likely to.
 
I agree that brushing it off is unwise, but it's this 'slant' of any form of aliens, interdimensional beings or whatnot being responsible is equally as unwise.

At least two of the disclosed phenomena are laughably expainable and at the congress hearing it was obvious that no serious scientific attempt had been made..

The "go fast" that many armchair experts gave a very good explanation of what the actual data on the screen really portrayed and simple trig gave you height/speed/size of the object being remarkably like a bird and the sudden acceleration at the end explained by the mechanical limit of the tracking system with the info on the screen to show this is the case makes a complete mockery of those using the 'physics defying' statements.
Worse, the green triangles is just ridiculously obviously explainable/repeatable and is so cringeworthy when you realise it's a triangular iris.

And Fravor and co? Well the moment the argument is "I'm an expert trained in these things" you've lost me..

However, some real scientific analysis I'm OK with.. lets weed out the obvious stuff from the not so obvious and I agree that we may indeed find some new phenomena like ball lightning, that is a good example given..

However, ball lightning and interdimensional beings do not belong in the same sentence.
 
Lysander said:
This is quite interesting. My wife is a translator and has been saying that over the past few weeks she has been getting more and more projects focusing on aliens and alien life. She remarked that these large companies [who will remain nameless] are easing the public into some kind of disclosure.

However, on OCUK there are plenty of people who will just stick their head in the sand and say nothing is provable yet. As much as ten years ago here I was saying, just as you are, that these are likely not standard measurable phenomena by the metrics we are used to. Change will be generational - a lot of the boomers and X-ers will not be able to get their heads around this and will mostly exist in denial - Y/Z are more likely to.
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Since last summer, I've been involved somewhat on the side lines of this effort but spoken to people very much closer to the heart of the process. I know this sounds all x-files and the fantasy ramblings of a basement dwelling conspiracy nut, but it's true. Sometimes I can't believe it myself, but it's happening, regardless if people want to believe it or not. In the next 7 to 10 days, we will likely see some evidence come from outside the US.
 
MookJong said:
Since last summer, I've been involved somewhat on the side lines of this effort but spoken to people very much closer to the heart of the process. I know this sounds all x-files and the fantasy ramblings of a basement dwelling conspiracy nut, but it's true. Sometimes I can't believe it myself, but it's happening, regardless if people want to believe it or not.
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I found this particularly interesting from one of the memos:

The All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) will be established to carry out the duties that were to be fulfi lled by the AOIMSG. The mission ofthe AARO will be to "synchronize efforts across the Department and with other Federal departments and agencies to detect, identify, and attribute objects of interest in, on, or near military installations, operating areas, training areas, special use airspace, and other areas of interest, and, as necessary, to mitigate any associated threats to safety of operations and national security." This includes anomalous, unidentified space, airborne, submerged, and transmedium objects.
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That speaks for itself, but the mention of "transmedia" - as in involving the supernatural - I found intriguing and it goes with the interdimensional theory.

EDIT: one such example of the normalisation process currently underway:

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Demon said:
I agree that brushing it off is unwise, but it's this 'slant' of any form of aliens, interdimensional beings or whatnot being responsible is equally as unwise.
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Yep, nobody knows what is happening, this is why there is the secrecy and embarrassment around the subject from governments. The Phenomenon does not appear to be a direct threat so it can be ignored. However, it has damaged personnel and our own technology.
Demon said:
At least two of the disclosed phenomena are laughably expainable and at the congress hearing it was obvious that no serious scientific attempt had been made..
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Agreed, no public facing scientific attempt has been made. They have disclosed the worst of the evidence so far.
Demon said:
The "go fast" that many armchair experts gave a very good explanation of what the actual data on the screen really portrayed and simple trig gave you height/speed/size of the object being remarkably like a bird and the sudden acceleration at the end explained by the mechanical limit of the tracking system with the info on the screen to show this is the case makes a complete mockery of those using the 'physics defying' statements.
Worse, the green triangles is just ridiculously obviously explainable/repeatable and is so cringeworthy when you realise it's a triangular iris.
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I would urge you to listen to the interview between US Navy Pilot Ryan Graves and Lex Fridman


Demon said:
And Fravor and co? Well the moment the argument is "I'm an expert trained in these things" you've lost me..
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Fravor is backed up by multiple on record radar personnel such as Kevin Day who tracked the objects over multiple days and told pilots where to go and find it.
Demon said:
However, some real scientific analysis I'm OK with.. lets weed out the obvious stuff from the not so obvious and I agree that we may indeed find some new phenomena like ball lightning, that is a good example given..
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Yep I'm not saying its aliens...
Demon said:
However, ball lightning and interdimensional beings do not belong in the same sentence.
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No but all options have to be on the table.
 
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