Philips 20" 200W6CS Widescreen TFT LCD

The only digital camera I have got is one on my phone which is 2 megapixels. I will see what I can do about taking a picture in the dark with a black screen. I may be able to borrow a proper digital camera from one of my friends.

As for testing ghosting, I am really not a very big gamer. I play Grand Prix 4 and Cricket 2005 a lot and only a few other games. But I will try do a test with some demos of other games that will show ghosting a lot.

Cheers,
 
just got mine, rushed home from work to set it up... lovely screen. no dead pixels, the colour is 500x better than on my ancient 181T, the viewing angles are better (but there is a grey-blue haze at extreme angles). just going to try some FPS and testing for backlight bleed.

back in a mo with pics.
 
houston, we have a problem. desktop - wow. photo editing - wow. gameplay? wow - she's a speedy beast.

BUT backlight leak like a bugger. 10 minutes in and i'm considering an RMA already.

mmmm, tasty.

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oo-er, this isn't looking good.

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gaaaaak! fear is giving me the fear. this is poor.

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the camera's exaggerated it to some extend, but i really wouldn't want to try playing fear all the way through with it.

going to see if fiddling with the settings does anything.

i feel sick. i was so looking forward to this!

(also, FEAR shows at this res. SLi is definitely needed - with all the sweetness turned on, it was... well, jerky)
 
Try adjusting it in the graphic card output if you are using DVI, i honestly dont have it that bad, certainlly don't notice it when it watch movies. I don't have FEAR thou so i can't comment on that.
 
hmmm. just tried adjusting it, got it a bit better but to be honest, in the darker levels of Farcry it just looks awful. i think i had a friday night special, though, as the leak is uneven along the top edge of the screen... it's in the corners, but then in little semi-circles along to top edge as well.

amazing colour though. shame that it seems to have the same problem as so many other 20" screens.
 
Can anyone else take a pic of the screen just displaying a black screen. Can you take a few shots with different iso levels (if you can manually set it) and say which one is nearest to real-life.

I'm praying mine doesn't have issues :(
 
The problem of taking photos of a black screen in the dar is that the camera will adjust to it and will open the lens for longer, so it achieve 18% grey. And all light will be exggerated, so even a little backlight bleeds will look like the floodlights in Old Trafford.
 
Raymond Lin said:
The problem of taking photos of a black screen in the dar is that the camera will adjust to it and will open the lens for longer, so it achieve 18% grey. And all light will be exggerated, so even a little backlight bleeds will look like the floodlights in Old Trafford.
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That is absolutely correct, I took a picture using my camera phone, in the picture the screen looks more blue than black and the bleeding is much more exaggurated than how it looks in real life.
 
It *does* look like this screen suffers from similar issues to my 2005fpw with backlight bleed though.

I think it's fair to say this screens first (hopefully only) achilles heel has appeared. :(

The fact it also suffers from backlight bleed (on some of them) further gives credence to the view these panels are S-IPS?

What do you think?
 
agreed, it is greatly exaggerated - but it is still there. i'll try adjusting a picture in photoshop to get the levels i see without that horrible blue hue. it's worth noting i have a very dark room - barely any ambient light at all at this time of night.

to be honest, it seems to only be an issue when the entire screen is dark. if there's anything to contrast with the corners (ie, watching a dvd in letterbox) the bleed is hardly noticeable. it's front and centre in FEAR/Doom though.
 
Some Belinea owners confirm that screen suffers the same too, its to do with the manufacturing procedure/quality rather the screen used.
 
nomadpete said:
it's worth noting i have a very dark room - barely any ambient light at all at this time of night.
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The camera will then get all the light from the screen, and will exggerate the backlight bleeds more than it really is.
 
I previously had the Belinea widescreen 20" that I sent back, and I can tell you that the backlight bleeding was very noticable on that screen, but it doesn't seem that bad at all on this Philips screen.
 
ADP said:
I previously had the Belinea widescreen 20" that I sent back, and I can tell you that the backlight bleeding was very noticable on that screen, but it doesn't seem that bad at all on this Philips screen.
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What is the colours like on the Belinea in comparison ?
 
I see OcUK are stocking the Phillips 800:1 and 8ms response version now and I have to say I'm VERY interested.

One question though - is it worth the extra 30 notes over the Belinea??
 
hard to say really. We've yet to see any advanced testing of the "new" 8ms S-IPS panels at any review sites so i would be wary personally of the real life performance improvements when compared with the 16ms predecessors (Dell 2005FPW). As it appears it is using the exact same panel with apparently some overdrive being applied to boost response time. It's still a bit up in the air at the moment imo....
 
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