Philips 20" 200W6CS Widescreen TFT LCD

If someone could then it would mean I could decide whether to buy or not. I've no idea how you can find out though.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Is it just me but the NEC (not yet release) looks a lot like the Acer (cheaper) screen? It seem to me that the NEC is just another rebadge acer.
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The NEC screen looks like the cheaper Acer , but that is a TN panel. I think the NEC has an S-IPS panel, which seems to be the same as the better Acer screen. But the NEC screen doesn't look like this one.
How confusing! :)
 
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Raymond Lin said:
Why are all these new screens coming out with IPS panels????
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Are S-IPS panels really that bad?, according to the TFT central guide they offer best colour reproduction (except black) and the 8ms responce time isn't that bad at all considering. Also the viewing angles are still better than TN
 
Aiye. As far as I'm aware MVA is a trade off between the speed of TN panels and the colour/quality of S-IPS.

I guess different screens are aimed at different sections of the market.
 
Oh, I would have thought S-IPS would have been good for movies too.

Anyway...back to this Philips screen !....anyone ripped it open yet to see what panel it is ??
 
From the sticky

IPS (In Plane Switching) was introduced to try and improve on some of these drawbacks. It was developed by Hitachi and was dubbed “super TFT”. They improved on viewing angles up to about 170H. This was done by controlling liquid crystal alignment slightly differently, but unfortunately, can affect response rate of the pixels. As such they are not as good for gaming as TN panels. They didn’t make any improvements on black reproduction really either, but dead pixels only show as black, not bright colours. IPS panels were later developed into Super-IPS (S-IPS) panels and production costs were lowered which has meant they have become more widely used. S-IPS offer perhaps the most accurate colour reproduction available in the TFT panel market, but response times and black levels remain inferior to those of MVA/PVA technology.

The third type is VA (Vertical Alignment) panels. The early VA panels have been scrapped due to poor viewing angles, and in their place came the MVA and PVA panels. These offer superior colour reproduction compared with TN film, but not quite as good as IPS / S-IPS. They do however have the advantage of being able to show good black levels and viewing angles are also very good . This is done by having all the colour elements of the panel split into cells or zones. These are formed by ridges on an internal surface of filters. The purpose of this design is to enable liquid crystals to move in opposite direction to their neighbours. It allows the observer to see the same shade of color irrespective of a viewing angle. There have been improvements to the MVA (Multidomain VA) and PVA (Patterned VA) technologies which has given birth to the Premium-MVA (P-MVA) and Super-PVA (S-PVA) technologies. More info on all of these can be found here.
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I suppose the IPS panel should be great for movies since it has excellent colour reproduction, for some reason I've set my mind on a P-MVA panel because it's a newer techonlogy or something.
 
They all have their niche in the market. I'm mainly looking for a gaming/image editing one, i rarely watch movies on my PC, so quite responsive and good colours seem to point towards the S-IPS for me, but its knowing which screen has which panel lol
 
guys, just to clear up a few things about this whole IPS vs MVA situation.


Traditionally, IPS panels offer more accurate colour reproduction than MVA panels. However, black depth is not as good, and the black levels are really a strong point of MVA technology (and PVA for that matter). IPS panels can also offer slightly wider viewing angles than MVA, but not by much. Both technologies have very wide viewing angles, with only a minimal difference detectable between the two. As a contrast, tN Film offers very poor viewing angles, especially vertically

LG.Philips are the only manufacturer to produce IPS panels, and they haven't really made much change to their panels over the last couple of years. In fact, their 16ms S-IPS panels are still widely used in models like the Dell 2001FP, Viewsonic VP210 and Dell 2005FPW. Also in the Apple 20" and 30" Cinema screens. LG.Philips haven't begin to use overdrive technology in this sector either, and im not sure they even will. As such, compared with modern overdriven PVA and MVA panels, they remain pretty unresponsive, and not really the most suited technology for gaming. Modern MVA panels can offer a decent response time thanks to overdrive and also offer excellent colour reproduction / black depth thanks to vast R&D in this technology, while LG.Philips have been lagging behind, or concentrating on their TN Film market. movie playback can be variable no matter what screen you get. On the whole, IPS and VA panels tend to be better than tN Film mainly because of the much wider viewing angles. Noise is also less of an issue, but can vary from one screen to another. AU Optronics have done a good job of controlling the overdrive on their new P-MVA panels and so this has had less impact on noise than other manufacturers have found.


The Philips 200W6CS used to use their 16ms S-IPS panel, a la Dell 2005FPW. However, Philips have now confirmed that the stock is all 8ms / 800:1 (well, at least those supplied to OcUK! :)) Now, since LG.Philips don't do screns at this speed and since the other specs look very much like an MVA panel, i'm pretty sure that they have swapped the S-IPS panel and used the new 8ms P-MVA panel from AU Optronics. I'm waiting for confirmation about this, but judging from the specs, it looks like it. This is certainly a better panel in terms of responsiveness compared with S-IPS technology, and llike i say, colour reproduction and black depth are excellent.

hope that helps a bit
 
Mmmm..this Philips is sounding more and more appealing. I was waiting for the Viewsonic, but I think I prefer the looks of the Philips. It looks a lot better than the Belinea that's for sure and it's virtually the same price.
 
Just looking at a new widescreen as I am selling off the parts from my other computer to fund it.
Mostly will be used for games, so in your opinions would would be better suited. The Philips, Belinea or the acer.
Thanks
 
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