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[PIC_THREAD] Wildlife, Animals, Birds, Zoo
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What the Duck?
Salisbury 2013.
Some sort of river plug?
Andi.
Salisbury 2013.
Some sort of river plug?
Andi.
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Great picture of the blue jay DP
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Go faster stripes?
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First time really 'doing' birds, so to speak.
Had a feeder, tripod, and just shot until the camera ran out of power (doesn't take long when you're shooting over wifi it turns out)
C&C welcome/encouraged:
#1
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#2
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#3
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#4
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#5
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#6
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#7
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#8
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#9
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#10
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#11
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#12
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#13
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#14
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#15
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#16
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#17
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#18
Coming into land by King Damager, on Flickr
#19
Get out of my way by King Damager, on Flickr
kd
Had a feeder, tripod, and just shot until the camera ran out of power (doesn't take long when you're shooting over wifi it turns out)
C&C welcome/encouraged:
#1
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#2
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#3
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#4
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#5
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#6
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#7
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#8
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#9
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#10
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#11
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#12
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#13
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#14
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#15
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#16
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#17
Garden Birds by King Damager, on Flickr
#18
Coming into land by King Damager, on Flickr
#19
Get out of my way by King Damager, on Flickr
kd
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^^^ some nice captures there. Some in particular stand out.
Some however seem quite soft, I don't know if this is a subject blur, camera blur, focus issue or lens softness (perhaps heavy cropping). Obviously you get wing blur which is hard to avoid without extreme shutter speeds.
Also check compositions. If an animal/bird/human is looking/moving to the left then it is good to have a space for the entity to look/move into on the left, the space behind is fairly dead.
I hope you find these comments constructive rather than negative.
Some however seem quite soft, I don't know if this is a subject blur, camera blur, focus issue or lens softness (perhaps heavy cropping). Obviously you get wing blur which is hard to avoid without extreme shutter speeds.
Also check compositions. If an animal/bird/human is looking/moving to the left then it is good to have a space for the entity to look/move into on the left, the space behind is fairly dead.
I hope you find these comments constructive rather than negative.
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Out of interest, which ones stand out, just so I know how to be more harsh in picking out the main shots in future? I've numbered them all to help a bit
I think the softness comes slightly from a combination of all. There shouldn't be too much heavy cropping, and the lens isn't unsharp, but at the same point, isn't incredibly sharp. Most stuff is Manual focussed on the feeder, whilst on a tripod so some softness will come from movement of the bird feeder and stuff, I've got it on MF to try and get more as they come in mind you. Most shots were at about 1/2000 to 1/4000, but yeah the slightly slower ones end up with wing blur. The softness on #5 bugs me quite a bit myself
Composition falls short because of the tripod setup again. This is good advice though, and I think again will just come back to me being a bit more harsh in PP about which ones make the cut and which don't.
But yes, thanks for the constructive comments! Don't see them as negative as well
kd
#1 is too close a crop, the bird needs a little space.
#2 highlight what I mean about have space for the bird to move and look into, while there is dead space behind.
#6 and #7 work better for me. Better balance. I also really like those yellow birds!
one idea for softness, did you have IS switched on while your lens was on a tripod? In general most lenses should have IS switched off on a tripod unless it say otherwise n the instruction manual. IS always tries to stabalise movement, if it doesn't detect any it will still try to correct for the absence oF movement- some smarter lenses can detect it is on a tripod and switch IS off or change modes into something where it does less shifting.
Simile lately at high shutter speed (faster than about 1/500 or 1/1000th) IS can make photos softer because the gyroscopic sensors and actuators have an operating frequency of only about 1-2KHz tops. From theory we know that the system can only react to frequencies at half that by nyquist frequency.
#2 highlight what I mean about have space for the bird to move and look into, while there is dead space behind.
#6 and #7 work better for me. Better balance. I also really like those yellow birds!
one idea for softness, did you have IS switched on while your lens was on a tripod? In general most lenses should have IS switched off on a tripod unless it say otherwise n the instruction manual. IS always tries to stabalise movement, if it doesn't detect any it will still try to correct for the absence oF movement- some smarter lenses can detect it is on a tripod and switch IS off or change modes into something where it does less shifting.
Simile lately at high shutter speed (faster than about 1/500 or 1/1000th) IS can make photos softer because the gyroscopic sensors and actuators have an operating frequency of only about 1-2KHz tops. From theory we know that the system can only react to frequencies at half that by nyquist frequency.
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Yeah, I knew #1 was a bit close a crop, that was so there was nothing else in the frame mind you. Might try it at something else mind you.
To be honest, IS may have been on, although if I'm honest, I think I turned it off. But could have forgotten to (I have silly moments)....
#6 and #18 are the ones I'm kind of most happy with, although #18 the slight blur in the wings is a bit annoying.
#19 I feel is so damn close to being great, with the one bird eyeing up the other. The only problem there of course being the tail
kd
To be honest, IS may have been on, although if I'm honest, I think I turned it off. But could have forgotten to (I have silly moments)....
#6 and #18 are the ones I'm kind of most happy with, although #18 the slight blur in the wings is a bit annoying.
#19 I feel is so damn close to being great, with the one bird eyeing up the other. The only problem there of course being the tail
kd
The noise (especially colour noise) in them makes me wonder if you're using lightroom 5, where it ignores your sharpening/noise reduction settings? If so, you might find you can get them looking sharper if you export with another program, or hunt down 5.2 which is supposed to fix the bug.
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I am using LR5. But to get 1/2000 or 1/4000 I was shooting at about ISO 4000. If noise wasn't there I'd be more worried
kd
I wouldn't bother shooting at 1/4000th second if it involves ISO 4000. 1/500th-1/1000th second should work and you will get down to ISO 400 roughly. Will be fast enough that there is no motion blur on the body. The wings will then also get a more natural amount of blur.
The thing with motion blur is you either want it very obvious and prominent, or not at all. Motion blur on the wings would be perfectly acceptable IMO.
The thing with motion blur is you either want it very obvious and prominent, or not at all. Motion blur on the wings would be perfectly acceptable IMO.
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