Pico 4 out soon?

Toekiller said:
You might be OK with some of the lower spec requirement games but it would struggle with FS2020 for definite. You can always get it and send it back if it's terrible. Do you have a vr headset now?
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No but played FS2020 on quest2 when it was just the quest 2 and it was playable but with abit of stutter here and there. I used a 60hz TV back then though and now got a 144hz monitor and it does have a 98hz setting in nvidia control panel. Does it matter what hz i set the monitor to when playing on Pico4?.
 
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skipper847 said:
No but played FS2020 on quest2 when it was just the quest 2 and it was playable but with abit of stutter here and there. I used a 60hz TV back then though and now got a 144hz monitor and it does have a 98hz setting in nvidia control panel. Does it matter what hz i set the monitor to when playing on Pico4?.
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No. You can set the pico to 72 or 90. You just need the GPU grunt to generate those frames. You do have a version of asynchronous warp that helps, though that can add various artifacts.
 
Toekiller said:
No. You can set the pico to 72 or 90. You just need the GPU grunt to generate those frames. You do have a version of asynchronous warp that helps, though that can add various artifacts.
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No way is FS2020 playable at the moment with a 2080ti but rest like HL Alyx is better performance but noticed its a lot darker in dark areas then quest 2 was.
 
I got red matter 2 yesterday but had to refund it. I felt so sick after a few mins of playing it, gave me seriously bad nausea. More so than any other game i've played.
 
Something worth factoring when making a purchase, as quoted from the Pinned comment in the video below.

"- I totally forgot to talk about the PICO 4 in this video. I was a tester for PICO/Bytedance on the unit for months before announcement, and to be honest, it's kind of underwhelming. A true great-on-paper-meh-in-reality experience. Panels are too dim for the optical stack and come out as pretty dark, the mura is unimpressively last-gen, and streaming is just OK. Facial interface is downright poor. For the monetary price? Can't beat it. But what's the real-world price here? I left PICO's tester team as soon as news broke about their parent company, Bytedance of TikTok, was without consent or knowledge doing information gathering on key persons abroad. Including in the West. Consider that this hardware, in practice owned by a Chinese state firm, is subsidised for a reason. Privacy being absolute 0 and dataleaks being widely reported by reputable press should be reason alone to dismiss this headset and future PICO headsets."

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Thanks for bringing up that Pico comment. I've seen too many people be like "I won't ever buy from Medduh because of their non-existant privacy policy and the lizard just wanting to steal my data" while happying jumping the bandwagon with all the people buying a Pico 4 in a heartbeat without ever asking themselves, how THEY could make it even more affordable than the Quest 2 already is. And as soon as I bring up the concerns (the Xinese Communist party has a 1% share of Bytedance and 1 out of 3 seats in the management board), they'll be like "Like 95% of your stuff is made in China, so what?" and I just wonder if they even tried to think. It makes a total difference if you buy a piece of plastic or cloth, or get a headset that literally is able to scan your complete home and your (and your family's) behaviour, life schedule etc. and have that send over to a state that clearly is not your friend. They're literally grasping for more power under Winnie the Pooh, wanting to supercede the USA as a global power by their 100th anniversary. And our private data is the most valuable weapon they could potentially have... don't help Xina to beat up your children and grand children in a few decades. Just don't. Oh, BTW, while we're at it: Don't buy ultra cheap Huawei, Xiaomi etc. phones either... it's not worth it :)

 
What do you set virtual reality pre rendered frames at in nvidia control just 1 or is there a best setting for Pico ?.
Also is there a way to adjust brightness for steam VR as said dark places is way too dark. Take HL Alyx even using the 2nd gun you get with upgraded laser i can barley see that.
 
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Well I've just tried beat saber on the pico4 over virtual desktop. Whilst it looks stunning, and the latency is "quite low" at 30ms, it's not low enough to be able to play properly.

You can just about get through an easy stage, but no higher.
 
TheOracle said:
Well I've just tried beat saber on the pico4 over virtual desktop. Whilst it looks stunning, and the latency is "quite low" at 30ms, it's not low enough to be able to play properly.

You can just about get through an easy stage, but no higher.
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I suspect some of my missed notes on my q2 are due to tracking issues, I cannot imagine doing expert plus with any additional latency to be honest, especially if there was any sort of fluctuation in that latency.
 
TheOracle said:
Well I've just tried beat saber on the pico4 over virtual desktop. Whilst it looks stunning, and the latency is "quite low" at 30ms, it's not low enough to be able to play properly.

You can just about get through an easy stage, but no higher.
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Wifi on the Pico must be pretty bad. On the Quest 2, when I tried the Steam version of Beat Saber over Virtual Desktop I could do expert levels. At the time I was only able to play expert levels so I don't know how it plays over Expert plus.

I can't test it now because I refunded the Steam Version. The visuals were nice but didn't add anything to the game for me. I didn't think it was worth having two versions of the game.
 
melmac said:
Wifi on the Pico must be pretty bad. On the Quest 2, when I tried the Steam version of Beat Saber over Virtual Desktop I could do expert levels. At the time I was only able to play expert levels so I don't know how it plays over Expert plus.

I can't test it now because I refunded the Steam Version. The visuals were nice but didn't add anything to the game for me. I didn't think it was worth having two versions of the game.
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Damn that's a shame. I thought it was controller tracking just being too slow going through VD. Steam have refunded me, so at least I'm not out of pocket.

It has been reported that the wifi on the pico does jump around quite a lot.
 
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TheOracle said:
Damn that's a shame. I thought it was controller tracking just being too slow going through VD. Steam have refunded me, so at least I'm not out of pocket.

It has been reported that the wifi on the pico does jump around quite a lot.
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Oculus have another advantage when it comes to tracking. All VR headsets use predictive tracking and Oculus are way out in front in that department. So it's probably a combination of poor wifi and not so great predictive tracking.
 
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