Playstation 4 being announced February 20th?

Where are people getting this 1080p / 4xAA stuff from?

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I read it is 1080p 4 x AA 30 fps or 720p 4 x AA 60 fps. Developers can choose.

I might be completely wrong though....

I think its delevelopers can choose whatever resolution they want. I would expect most games will be aiming for the 1080 30fps but we will probably see odd games with slightly lower resolutions or running at higher fps at 1080. Especially later down the line ones the engines and tools have matured a bit :D
 
Developers will likely stick to a unified resolution that is achievable across all the next generation consoles.
Id rather they attempted to produce a solid framerate than dictate a particular resolution. 720p or 1080p doesnt really make a massive difference to me; nowhere like a solid framerate that doesnt wander when the screen gets busy...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Don't hold back... :p

As for the last part, very true.

I wear my heart on my sleeve dude. :D

I know, and it was/is a very valid point

Just pulling your leg:)

Heh, thought you might have been but I just thought I'd double check as I was pretty tired at the time. :p

no they dont! just because an iphone is called an iphone doesnt mean they have ranges for various budgets hence why they still have 3 in circulation at any one time.

What? The cheapest phone you can buy directly from Apple at this moment is the iPhone 4 which starts at £319 for the basic spec, you'd have to be a complete moron to spend that much on something with such outdated hardware by Apple standards.

They aren't catering toward the bottom end of the market in the same way the Android handset manufacturers are, nowhere near. What would you expect for £319 if you were to buy an Android handset? Certainly not a bottom of the range base model which is what you're getting from Apple for that money. It's not difficult at all to see that they are only catering for the upper tier of the market, anyway I won't bother going on as in relation to the original topic this is neither here nor there.
 
So I've read that this 8 core Jaguar CPU has 104 Gflops, is this being calculated in the same way as a regular desktop part, i.e this is the result it would get if it did a LinX stress test.?

Just wondering, because 13 Gflops per core @ 1.6Ghz makes each core as fast as my Phenom II @3.8Ghz.

Anyone have any thoughts on it, how a core running at approx 45% as fast as mine can deliver more than twice as many Flops.?
 
I haven't seen a PC game that looks as good as that Killzone demo.

Do you know why you don't see PC games looking like that?

It's because the games are made for console, and the ported to PC.

If you made a game that made use of the full graphics capability of the latest PC hardware, it would be vastly superior to anything you currently see on console, or anything you will see on the Playstation 4.

But, it would also mean that only the people with top of the range PC hardware could run it.

In the Playstation 4 demo, the footage is being played on a PC in the background, a PC with the same spec as the PS4, but a PC all the same.

Now, the release of the PS4 can only be a good thing for PC gamers, as it will mean that developers making cross platform games will not have to dumb down the graphics to cater for out of date console hardware, which will mean the capability of the PC can be utilised more, but given a year and the PC will once again be capable of something vastly superior.

Take for example this image from and Nvidia showcase in 2007:

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and compare it to the image from the PS4 demo:

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there is not much in it, and that was 6 years ago, see what I mean?
 
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Look at those 2 videos in motion. Nvidia one looks nowhere near as good. Pictures dont say much really do they.

I cannot wait for kz that video makes me love it more lol. Resistance is one that I hope pops up now
 
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So I've read that this 8 core Jaguar CPU has 104 Gflops, is this being calculated in the same way as a regular desktop part, i.e this is the result it would get if it did a LinX stress test.?

Just wondering, because 13 Gflops per core @ 1.6Ghz makes each core as fast as my Phenom II @3.8Ghz.

Anyone have any thoughts on it, how a core running at approx 45% as fast as mine can deliver more than twice as many Flops.?

the its down to how its built, just does things better than the previous generation.

will be interesting to see how it runs and not in demo's as im getting sick of people posting comparisons that dont even match up. for starters what was that nvidia demo run in ? 1024/768, 1280/1024 maybe the ps4 demo could be in 1920/1080 we just dont know.
 
Look at those 2 videos in motion. Nvidia one looks nowhere near as good. Pictures dont say much really do they.
About a thousand words I hear

I once thought PC gamers were generally more reasoned than console gamers - but actually they both got a majority share of the dregs of society...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Agree. The nvidia demo pic looks more detailed than ps4 pic

They could have used beautiful women faces as demo :(

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact one picture is considerably bigger than the other, as well as being zoomed in on the subject matter. :o

Fact is - it doesn't matter the reason, the PS4 games look brilliant and you can pick holes in them however you like, or claim a PC could do better - but nothing changes the fact it looks great and nothing to date has looked as good.

I say this as someone who owns a high-end PC as well as both current consoles. I don't get people who argue vehemently for either side, it's stupid.
 
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