Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Who will you vote for?

  • Conservatives

  • Labour

  • Lib Dem

  • UKIP

  • Other (please state)

  • I won't be voting


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I don't agree with either of those... but in the grand scheme of things there are rather more important things to worry about
Yet why even entertain such nonsensical considerations ...

The wheels really do see to be coming off the Tory train.
 
so it isn't a Tory party policy....

I'm sorry, when a senior cabinet minister goes on live TV and says it is, a lot of the viewing public then believe it as clearly not everybody in the UK are going to read the whole manifesto are they?

Or are you saying we should ignore everything said in speeches and TV by every senior Tory MP?
 
I'm sorry, when a senior cabinet minister goes on live TV and says it is, a lot of the viewing public then believe it as clearly not everybody in the UK are going to read the whole manifesto are they?

Or are you saying we should ignore everything said in speeches and TV by every senior Tory MP?

You already know full well that he was incorrect so trying to pretend it is Tory party policy would be rather disingenuous. No you shouldn't ignore everything but you're already well aware that this was a mistake by Boris and not policy.

"There are more important things at hand.. Such as the IRA"

a potential PM and Home Secretary supporting an armed struggle against the UK is rather more worrying and rather more important a consideration re: their suitability for office than whether they let some toffs go fox hunting IMO
 
You already know full well that he was incorrect so trying to pretend it is Tory party policy would be rather disingenuous. No you shouldn't ignore everything but you're already well aware that this was a mistake by Boris and not policy.

It's not much different to Diane Abbott getting her figures wrong is it? She got crap for almost a week about that.

Just highlights the massive rightwing media bias.
 
I'm not sure what your point is exactly? I'm not entertaining them - I disagree with them as already stated.
It wasn't directed at you. It was more in agreement that there are indeed higher priority concerns on people’s minds. As such why further sully the now dwindling lead by considering such emotive policies.
 
You already know full well that he was incorrect so trying to pretend it is Tory party policy would be rather disingenuous. No you shouldn't ignore everything but you're already well aware that this was a mistake by Boris and not policy.

Clearly it isnt but its pretty poor when you go on TV and say it is. Point is, at the time of the interview it was stated as policy by Boris the fool.

Not sure what you are arguing over.

No way have I said it is Party Policy, I just said Boris said it is Party Policy.
 
It's not much different to Diane Abbott getting her figures wrong is it? She got crap for almost a week about that.

Just highlights the massive rightwing media bias.

of course... media bias

her mistake was rather more egregious and she was given a few attempts to correct it...
 
Hatchet jobs based on things he's actually done! It is hardly just the right wing press, his own MPs don't have much confidence in him - they tried to oust him, various of them resigned from shadow cabinet positions... these are people who ought to be on side with him, people who have worked directly with him not just some right wing journalists with an agenda.

80% of it is just three newspaper, the Telegraph, DM and the Express.
 
Not sure what you are arguing over.

No way have I said it is Party Policy, I just said Boris said it is Party Policy.


since when was that claim a Tory party policy?
since Boris went on TV and said the £350m a week from the Eu is going to the NHS in the manifesto. You mean to say it isn't?

80% of it is just three newspaper, the Telegraph, DM and the Express.

80% of what?
 
Again I dont see your point? Boris went on TV and said it was Party Policy. I have said it isnt. If you have a problem go take it up with Boris.

My point is it isn't party policy.. I stated "since when was that claim a Tory party policy?" -the correct answer is that is isn't... instead you made some statement that is was because Boris said so... that isn simply incorrect that is all.
 
annnd ....here's the U-Turn:

George Osborne, the former Conservative chancellor who now edits the Evening Standard, says the government will perform a U-turn over social care, and impose a cap on costs.

https://twitter.com/George_Osborne?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/may/22/general-election-2017-theresa-may-social-care-fallout-politics-live

from his twitter feed.

Is this really the strong negotiator that the UK wants for Brexit ?
If true; the train just crashed.
 
annnd ....here's the U-Turn:

George Osborne, the former Conservative chancellor who now edits the Evening Standard, says the government will perform a U-turn over social care, and impose a cap on costs.

https://twitter.com/George_Osborne?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/may/22/general-election-2017-theresa-may-social-care-fallout-politics-live

from his twitter feed.

Is this really the strong negotiator that the UK wants for Brexit ?

if they did it hardly changes the policy (depending on the cap) it just insures some rather richer people against some tail end risk - i.e. things like the tiny few cases whereby their care might cost hundreds of thousands and they have plenty in assets to potentially lose.

for most people residential care has an average of 50k - 90k and care at home will be even cheaper... You could impose say a cap of 100k and the vast majority of people would have care bills well within that cap anyway

I'm still finding it amusing that what could easily be a left wing policy is getting so much flack in part simply because it is being proposed by the Tories - the change you're highlighting would mostly just serve to protect a small portion of wealth middle class people... not that it would necessarily be a bad policy to have such a cap...protecting people on both ends of this could be fairly sensible
 
My point is it isn't party policy.. I stated "since when was that claim a Tory party policy?" -the correct answer is that is isn't... instead you made some statement that is was because Boris said so... that isn simply incorrect that is all.

Well your question was in response to somebody posting about what Boris said. Yes it isnt but why are you just ignoring what the buffoon said?

annnd ....here's the U-Turn:

George Osborne, the former Conservative chancellor who now edits the Evening Standard, says the government will perform a U-turn over social care, and impose a cap on costs.

https://twitter.com/George_Osborne?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/may/22/general-election-2017-theresa-may-social-care-fallout-politics-live

from his twitter feed.

Is this really the strong negotiator that the UK wants for Brexit ?

I could see this coming a mile off after that one issue seems to have cut their lead from 20% to 10%.
 
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