Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Who will you vote for?

  • Conservatives

  • Labour

  • Lib Dem

  • UKIP

  • Other (please state)

  • I won't be voting


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Very worrying the way the left-wing media is focusing on issues with the Conservative's manifesto and ignoring Labour weaknesses like Corbyn's support for the IRA. I was worried about a 'coalition of chaos' with Labour, Lib Dems, Greens and SNP but given the way the media has turned the tide and that we still have the old boundaries that unfairly benefit Labour I'm thinking we could end up with Labour in government propped up by Nicola Sturgeon's SNP!

Yeah, those 20% leftwing media not having a go at Corbyn for being pro IRA, even though he's said he condemns them.

What ********. They should join the other 80% of the rightwing press.
 
Bloomin' heck - it's almost like the Tories don't actually want to win this election!
Im starting to think they wont. I was going to vote for them , but FML a lot of their policies are outrageous.
The problem I have now is that i have no idea who will be the replacement vote.

Labour have Diana, and Marxism
Lib Dems want to send us further back via the EU veto

Do i vote UKIP? what is going on anymore.....
 
if they did it hardly changes the policy (depending on the cap) it just insures some rather richer people against some tail end risk - i.e. things like the tiny few cases whereby their care might cost hundreds of thousands and they have plenty in assets to potentially lose.

Shock as Tories protect the rich and screw over the middle and working classes. Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas.
 
Some new news...

Tories buy Google ads to stop people reading about controversy over new policy

The Conservatives are buying up Google ads to stop people reading about the controversy around its "dementia tax".

The party has come under huge pressure over its new care plan, which will see older people have to pay for the services they use. The controversial policy has been called a dementia tax, since it means people who need care as they get older will have to pay far more than they did before.

Now the party appears to be attempting to limit that controversy by stopping people reading about it. It is thought it is spending thousands of pounds to keep people from reading about the widespread opposition to the party – and encourage them to click on its own website instead.

Source
 
She's a horrible, despicable lying bag of **** but people will still vote for her. You'll get what you deserve (totally screwed) when they get in power.

Years from now, they're gonna ask us: where were you when they took over the country? And we'll say: I voted for the other guy.
 
It's OK everything will be paid for with more debt and asking the rich for just a 'little bit more'... forget people perhaps taking responsibility for choosing a degree program and paying off that debt themselves we'll tax high earners 'just a little bit more' to pay for it... social care... do we get people with substantial assets to cover the costs (which don't even get deducted until after they die)... na we'll just tax high earners 'just a little bit more'... they don't seem to realise there is a limit to this, you can't just keep on paying for things with increases in income tax and loading up on more debt
 
Let wing media? Which publications? Get a grip.
Never hear of The Guardian, The Independent, The Mirror? Then there's the online media, in particular Twitter where well-oganised left-wing campaigns tend to dominate the Trending News political articles.
 
A cap was to be expected.

The manifesto policy is still valid and fair. Not expecting current taxpayers to fund an increasing social care commitment is right. Having a limit on the amount that people can retain and pass on (raised from the previous limit for residential care). Now placing an upper limit the state can demand from an individual for care subject to consultation.

So in effect the manifesto commitment was more onerous than the likely legislation. I believe that the range of social care charges is £50k - £90k. The cap would probably be set at £100k - £150k initially to allow for a longer lifespan in care.
 
Well played Times.

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Pretty much where most people get their info from these days.

I've never used twitter. I do use Facebook and have had many targeted ads from the tories. Arnt the tories being looked into for targeting ads against personal data....

Deny it all you want anyway but there is Absoloubtly no doubt that the majority of our media is right wing... And when readership is taken into account .... The majority read right wing papers...therefore what ever the headlines most people repeat whether true or not.
 
forget people perhaps taking responsibility for choosing a degree program and paying off that debt themselves we'll tax high earners 'just a little bit more' to pay for it
I don't think it's really fair to blame students for the tuition fees mess. People were encouraged to go to uni en masse with the promise of getting great jobs at the end of it, which then failed to materialise. Degrees are now so devalued that everyone is expected to have them almost regardless of whether one is needed for the job they're going for, so hey, may as well go and get a degree. And costs continue to spiral so people end up saddled with huge debts which some absurd percentage of people will never repay.
 
I don't think it's really fair to blame students for the tuition fees mess. People were encouraged to go to uni en masse with the promise of getting great jobs at the end of it, which then failed to materialise. Degrees are now so devalued that everyone is expected to have them almost regardless of whether one is needed for the job they're going for, so hey, may as well go and get a degree. And costs continue to spiral so people end up saddled with huge debts which some absurd percentage of people will never repay.

Devalued?

Surely if you can't even get a basic job without a degree, then degrees have in effect increased in value?

If you could get a good job without a degree, than that would make a degree worth less.
 
Never hear of The Guardian, The Independent, The Mirror? Then there's the online media, in particular Twitter where well-oganised left-wing campaigns tend to dominate the Trending News political articles.

Tories get such absurdly free pass publication coverage from pretty much every popular media outlet you're deluded to say that "left wing media" are twisting things (or whatever your exact wording was)

What's happened is even their cheerleaders in the BBC, Sky, Mail, Sun & Telegraph have turned on her brutal policies and now the lying cow is back peddling along with cronies like you.

Regarding two of your points above;

1) trending social media - if you cannot get fair media coverage in the mainstream press it stands to reason you will go to social media and it would only trend if people cared about it. So perhaps the facts aren't being reported in the media and what you see on social media is people's opinions.

2) whilst the guardian is certainly left wing it isn't blindly labour like the above pubs are blindly Tory. Read the guardian comments and it takes a long and large battering most days for its (impressive) degree of impartiality and how it is willing to criticise Corbyn and Labour more often than not.


On a different topic seeing Maybot scream about fake news, when ole Donald was you know what grabbing her she clearly asked him for a few electioneering lessons too.
 
I don't think it's really fair to blame students for the tuition fees mess. People were encouraged to go to uni en masse with the promise of getting great jobs at the end of it, which then failed to materialise. Degrees are now so devalued that everyone is expected to have them almost regardless of whether one is needed for the job they're going for, so hey, may as well go and get a degree. And costs continue to spiral so people end up saddled with huge debts which some absurd percentage of people will never repay.

That was partly thanks though to a new labour policy to get more people into university. I don't think the solution to that though is to then scrap fees unless they're going to also cut back on places... at least under the current structure courses are going to increasingly have to demonstrate some value as it becomes more apparent to young people that university isn't always the answer and of course people have some personal responsibility for their choices... if you want to insist on studying media and gender studies at "Luton Polytechnic" then you're responsible for funding it in the end and likewise if that university wants to carry on providing that course then they'll be under a bit more pressure to demonstrate some value as potential students start getting wiser and question whether they'd be better off without that sort of degree. I'd quite happily be in favour of scrapping fees if there was also a big cull in some of theses courses.
 
Im starting to think they wont. I was going to vote for them , but FML a lot of their policies are outrageous.
The problem I have now is that i have no idea who will be the replacement vote.

Labour have Diana, and Marxism
Lib Dems want to send us further back via the EU veto

Do i vote UKIP? what is going on anymore.....

I was thinking of voting tory but im spoiling my ballot now.
 
So this was in her mind all along but didn't include these details in the manifesto...


Okay jeff, sure.
 
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