Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Who will you vote for?

  • Conservatives

  • Labour

  • Lib Dem

  • UKIP

  • Other (please state)

  • I won't be voting


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Education was the single biggest indicator of voting intention in the EU referendum. Without a leave result, this snap election would not have happened and this the country would be in a stronger and more stable position.

Firstly you refer to this general election and secondly you're got a rather obvious confounder there in the form of age. I can see your point if you're referring to the EU referendum not being won meaning this general election not being held (I was assuming you were refering to support for the tories) but even then my second point is relevant in that case.
 
well they've not actually proposed the cap... and still if in some areas the average cost of even residential care is 50k then a 60k cap isn't exactly likely to be reached by most of the people going for non residential care

I a surprised its so low. In the UK you can expect to pay on average around £29,270 a year in residential care costs, rising to over £39,300 a year if nursing care is necessary. Its £5k more in some parts of the country. So £60k caps it at two years for most people.

http://www.payingforcare.org/care-home-fees

Plus that's a lifetime cap so you might have a few years of care at home before your go into a care home. I think the average is £11k per annum for at home care
 
Is that sarcasm? Taxing the top 5% of earners should be popular, yes.

indeed - though if the answer to anything that needs more funding is yet another high earners just need to pay a little bit more - they're become increasingly inefficient at collecting the required revenue and quite likely start to harm economic growth in the process... ergo we'll have higher taxes loaded on more people and/or further increases to the deficit
 
Is that sarcasm? Taxing the top 5% of earners should be popular, yes.

No not at all. They're already pay a lot of tax through their earnings. It's not as if the more you earn the less you pay in tax. It wouldn't be as bad if they raised the tax-free threshold, but then you're not eligible for tax-free earnings after you earn over a certain amount anyway.

They should just bring in a flat rate of tax anyway - much fairer then.
 
I a surprised its so low. In the UK you can expect to pay on average around £29,270 a year in residential care costs, rising to over £39,300 a year if nursing care is necessary. Its £5k more in some parts of the country. So £60k caps it at two years for most people.

http://www.payingforcare.org/care-home-fees

Plus that's a lifetime cap so you might have a few years of care at home before your go into a care home. I think the average is £11k per annum for at home care

People die... Once you're getting to the stage where you can't look after yourself it isn't really that long for most people.

ref: care at home before moving - care at home can be a substitute for residential care... you might be thinking of nursing care homes btw.. and people really don't spend too long in them at all
 
No not at all. They're already pay a lot of tax through their earnings. It's not as if the more you earn the less you pay in tax. It wouldn't be as bad if they raised the tax-free threshold, but then you're not eligible for tax-free earnings after you earn over a certain amount anyway.

They should just bring in a flat rate of tax anyway - much fairer then.

Flat tax rate for people who will never need to worry about money vs those barely scraping by? Lmao what.
 
People die... Once you're getting to the stage where you can't look after yourself it isn't really that long for most people.

ref: care at home before moving - care at home can be a substitute for residential care... you might be thinking of nursing care homes btw.. and people really don't spend too long in them at all

My Grandad spent 6 years in a nursing home with Dementia and Parkinsons. Zero quality of life the whole time.

He was far from the only long-term patient in that home.

I'm not sure your statement has any basis in fact TBH. Dementia and other degenerative diseases can be very slow killers.
 
Flat tax rate for people who will never need to worry about money vs those barely scraping by? Lmao what.

It's actually quite a fair system, and you'd still have the personal allowance. So I don't see how it's a bad thing? Those earning a little more contribute more, thus more money in the pot.

But not only that you scrap all the other taxes and just have 1 tax for everything. Much fairer and easier to manage/deal with. Anyway, it's just an idea - I don't see any better suggestions made so far.

I guess it annoys me as I've worked hard to earn more, and I pay a shed load of tax (which I don't mind) but to then be taxed even more because I dare be successful really winds me up.
 
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The Streisand Effect is alive and well.
 
My Grandad spent 6 years in a nursing home with Dementia and Parkinsons. Zero quality of life the whole time.

He was far from the only long-term patient in that home.

I'm not sure your statement has any basis in fact TBH. Dementia and other degenerative diseases can be very slow killers.

well it does as I was quoting the average costs mentioned earlier in the thread... those are facts rather than anecdotes about 'my grandad...' etc..

no one is denying that long term residents exist... - that there were others is hardly surprising - give that they're there for a long term...

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but but... I thought the narrative was that the media doesn't criticise May?... you can't really have it both ways
 
but but... I thought the narrative was that the media doesn't criticise May?... you can't really have it both ways

I have no idea what you're talking about. Who are you referring to? Could you pull up a quote that says that the media doesn't criticise May at all?
 
I guess it annoys me as I've worked hard to earn more, and I pay a shed load of tax (which I don't mind) but to then be taxed even more because I dare be successful really winds me up.

Why? Do you work harder than say, a Nurse on less than 20K per year?

If you earn £100,000 a year you will pay £20 extra a week.

Is that going to affect your quality of life? Do you not think something like the NHS is a great institution that's worth protecting?

I'd love to earn that sort of money, and would happily pay extra back in to the country.
 
I guess it annoys me as I've worked hard to earn more, and I pay a shed load of tax (which I don't mind) but to then be taxed even more because I dare be successful really winds me up.

That's what they'll do bud, blame you for everything that's happening in the country, it's so out of touch with the reality.

Why? Do you work harder than say, a Nurse on less than 20K per year?

If you earn £100,000 a year you will pay £20 extra a week.

Is that going to affect your quality of life? Do you not think something like the NHS is a great institution that's worth protecting?

I'd love to earn that sort of money, and would happily pay extra back in to the country.

It's not about that, it's about wealth creation, how do fail to see that. Hence, why's he's probably paying for several nurses a year in tax.
 
So what's happening with this death tax now then?

Before there was a floor with a min amount of 100k you could keep but now they are changing it to a cap? Are they still keeping the floor?

Because I can imagine in poorer areas where houses are around 120k.... A cap with no floor would be even worse.
 
That's what makes me "leftwing" I guess.

If I earn't loads of money (80k+ is what I consider loads), I would have no issue paying more of a share back in taxation.

Why are you being obtuse, there's one thing you can't blame people who earn high salaries for, and that's not putting back into the economy. It's ridiculous.
 
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