Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th
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That isn't the only difference, though it seems that many people are incapable of distinguishing between someone engaging in dialogue and someone openly supporting/sympathising with a cause. It seems some are happy not to concern themselves with the details and just mindlessly conflate the two.
Not really - the IRA wanted a united Ireland, their funding increasing dried up and their organisation was full of informants after successful intelligence operations. They finally came to the negotiating table when it became abundantly obvious they couldn't be successful if they carried on down the same path.
Can you explicitly explain the change in his views from that article to his speech.
He is quoted as having said then:
My reading of that is not that the Leaders of Western Countries need to wine and dine ISIS, more that a continuation of the policy that got us to where we are today is not likely to be the way forward, but spin it how you want, I recall the BBC cut an interview from before the attack, into a news item from after, to misrepresent him too!
What does the UN security council make of Israeli actions in the region?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_2334
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Well, luckily we're now out of Iraq and have no troops in Syria. Surely problem solved then?
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And what's your point? I was talking about a person, Corbyn.
Ill answer yours when you answer mine, where has his view changed, while you are at it, explain why you appear to entirely misrepresent it?
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On the Neil/Corbyn interview:
Neil: [Loads of evidence of Corbyn supporting the IRA and armed struggle]
Corbyn: [Nope]
Neil: [IFS analysis says your manifesto will create the highest level of taxation in history]
Corbyn: [They're wrong, cuts are bad mkay]
I've never been genuinely worried about a UK politician, he is our Trump, especially as his supporters are equally as blind to his faults.
Neil: [Loads of evidence of Corbyn supporting the IRA and armed struggle]
Corbyn: [Nope]
Neil: [IFS analysis says your manifesto will create the highest level of taxation in history]
Corbyn: [They're wrong, cuts are bad mkay]
I've never been genuinely worried about a UK politician, he is our Trump, especially as his supporters are equally as blind to his faults.
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Not a fan of Teresa May or the Conservatives in general but the current Labor leadership has a decidedly Marxist flavor to it.
Every time Marxist principles are applied to a country the same outcomes can be guaranteed......
To start with lots is promised (no tuition fees, massive increases in health and social spending etc) but pretty quickly Marxist principles destroy enterprise within the economy and the Marxists run out of other peoples money to spend on the proles. The end result is starvation, totalitarian governorship and crony corruption every time.
Look at Venezuela so feted in her past by the Marxists in this country (inc Corbyn) and other Marxist fanboys like Owen Jones until it all went horribly and predictably wrong with people now starving and suffering in droves in Latin Americas only failed state
The labor chancellor is a self confessed Marxist who thinks its a good idea to quote from Mao's little red book. With Mao and his ilk being responsible for the deaths of 10's of millions of people!
Can you image a Tory prospective chancellor of the exchequer 'jokingly' quoting from Mein Kampf and getting away with it?
Vote for whoever you want in June but don't be fooled by the virtue sifnalling of Corbyn and his ilk. A vote for Labor in 2017 is a vote for Marxism with the likes of Momentum pulling the string to ensure the 'fair' distribution of an ever shrinking tax base.
Nothing in this post should be read to say that I endorse the Tory's or Teresa May as a 'good' option for the country but they may well be the 'least worst'
Every time Marxist principles are applied to a country the same outcomes can be guaranteed......
To start with lots is promised (no tuition fees, massive increases in health and social spending etc) but pretty quickly Marxist principles destroy enterprise within the economy and the Marxists run out of other peoples money to spend on the proles. The end result is starvation, totalitarian governorship and crony corruption every time.
Look at Venezuela so feted in her past by the Marxists in this country (inc Corbyn) and other Marxist fanboys like Owen Jones until it all went horribly and predictably wrong with people now starving and suffering in droves in Latin Americas only failed state
The labor chancellor is a self confessed Marxist who thinks its a good idea to quote from Mao's little red book. With Mao and his ilk being responsible for the deaths of 10's of millions of people!
Can you image a Tory prospective chancellor of the exchequer 'jokingly' quoting from Mein Kampf and getting away with it?
Vote for whoever you want in June but don't be fooled by the virtue sifnalling of Corbyn and his ilk. A vote for Labor in 2017 is a vote for Marxism with the likes of Momentum pulling the string to ensure the 'fair' distribution of an ever shrinking tax base.
Nothing in this post should be read to say that I endorse the Tory's or Teresa May as a 'good' option for the country but they may well be the 'least worst'
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Have you just ignored the last few pages pointing out Mays incompetence?
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But Saint Corbyn is incompetent AND dangerous. His disciples are blind to his imperfections and see any critic as an Evil Tory, including those in the Labour party.
180 of his own MP's tried to get rid of him, surely they know a bit more about him than you or anyone else on this forum?
fair point - we find far right fascism utterly abhorrent but seem to give more leeway to far left ideologies, if someone from UKIP tried drawing some inspiration from Hitler they'd be quite rightly crucified to the point where their only option would be to stand down
it isn't really comparable, I can see how some might think it is - if you get worked up any time there is a u-turn on some policy etc.. you'll probably end up drawing some sort of false equivalence in your head but all those labour MPs didn't just turn on Corbyn for fun or as part of some underhand conspiracy, they genuinely believe that he is a disaster for the part and the country
... and they're closer to achieving that than they've ever been. Compare how many seats Sinn Fein IRA had in the first Stormont Assembly to how many they have now. They have allies in the RoI and in Brussels who are also pushing for a united Ireland.
Out of the jaws of victory, defeat...
Well if they hold a referendum and the majority of people vote for it then I don't see an issue with it, the issue with them was the terrorism/violence not the political goals. We got to the point where they were continually undermined in their armed 'struggle' and they had to come to the negotiating table.
Ironically one former IRA member has claimed that the hard left types like Corbyn probably helped prolong the conflict as they were emboldened by that support:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...a-support-former-terrorist-says-35741452.html
also amusing to see him deny his past meetings on TV this evening:
https://order-order.com/2017/05/26/corbyn-lies-never-met-ira/
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Personally I think they are both as damaging for the country just in different ways. The least worse option, though it would need collective cooperation from the electorate which will never happen, is a Con-Lib coalition.
Its kind of amusing how May falls apart when it comes to having to do actual politics rather than ramming through an agenda.
I am not in the slightest worried about Corbyn - I am worried by any Tory PM, including TM.
I think the only parallel really is that his supporters are equally as blind to his faults - if he was as honest as they claim he'd have spent far less time during that interview trying to avoid giving straight answers lol.
you don't think that having a Marxist government might just cause problems?
(you know like every other Marxist government which has either spectacularly failed or ended in tyranny, and often starvation)
the left rails about Maggie who was in power i the 80's ....
but a few families using food banks today does not equate to the former middle class starving like we see in Venezuela in 2017 a country that Corbyn was lauding as the way forward only four or so years ago..... (ie within a single uk election span)
Maybe he knows Corbyn has no chance of getting in, so no-one is worried about his hot air and spending the same tax money 20 times over.
people said similar things re Trump....
he'll never get in etc....
complacency could be a big mistake
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