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Provisional World Cup Squad
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i am extremely excited by svens squad...the key with players like walcott and lennon are that they are unknown quantitys on the continent, their pace will rip people apart. Exciting times, and exactly the squad i'd have picked. Well done sven for having some bottle for once. There's no doubt about it either, the boy walcott has pace to burn and technique (goals for southampton required amazing skill, no matter what league it is) Some exquisit finishes from the lad.
Lets remember owen 98' raw, brought on as sub, destroyed the argies...
Everyone who writes off crouch will be eating their words come the world cup, believe me.
In the words of rafa, 'if you don't value crouch, you don't know football'
Lets remember owen 98' raw, brought on as sub, destroyed the argies...
Everyone who writes off crouch will be eating their words come the world cup, believe me.
In the words of rafa, 'if you don't value crouch, you don't know football'
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dobbsy said:
Yes thats why the teams that finished first and second in the league all busted a nut to sign him.
Not.
I dont value Crouch, not at all, i prefere out and out strikers.
You've done worse than you did last season and you have crouch in the side this time round.
Soldato
Have you won the champions league this year? 
atpbx said:
atpbx, backing Brown for England never mind MU? Now I've seen everything! [/phoebe]
Gotta say I'm very disappointed by the squad. The cynic in me says that Sven knows that he will hated regardless, so he has taken a risk and is hoping that the likes of Walcott will come good and he will get praise for taking a chance.
James: Liability. We know he can't handle top level football, might as well take a risk on someone else or even just go with 2 keepers (e.g. take Nolan).
Bridge: Spent months injured, then came back and looked complete turd in an england shirt, so bad even Sven noticed and was forced to sub him at halftime. I'd have Carragher as my backup leftback and take Young instead.
Hargreaves: The most average player ever to don the 3 lions, which is an insult as he isn't English anyway. He never does ANYTHING, I'm sure he is neat and tidy etc, but he isn't good enough to start and he isn't the type of player who can change a game coming off the bench. The most damning insight is that the only good thing people can think of to say about him is that he is 'versatile', which is another name for 'jack of all trades' or 'not good enough to hold down a position in his own right'. We have a 23 man squad ffs, all of which can be used during the match, it's not like the days of only 2 subs where you needed that kind of thing on the bench. Replace with SWP, remember that Beckham can play in the centre if needed.
Jenas: No neeeeeed. Take another striker instead.
Walcott: Hasn't played any premiership football and only turned 17 two months ago. One day he will be the new Robinho, but not yet. Imagine what happens if he comes on as sub in one match, gets a chance and misses it (not that unlikely as his finishing could do with some work, he is a winger by trade not a striker). It could really play on the kid's mind, a lot of pressure, and potentially damage his career before it has even started. It's not even as if he would be able to banish the demons by coming back to his club and scoring a few goals, because he is lower down the Arsenal pecking order than he is at England, so he would be left to fester with that in his mind, a 17 year old kid knowing that he has failed 50 million countrymen and no way to rectify it. Replace with Defoe.
Now, it seems to me that taking 4 strikers is crazy, I mean of the two main ones one of them won't be fit for ages, the other has suspect fitness. Crouch, fair enough, but Walcott?? Surely there has to be room for Defoe and Bent (the top english goalscorer?) at the expense of Walcott and Jenas?
Personally I'm OK with Campbell being in the squad. Until this year he has been incredibly reliable, and was immense in the last two tournies for England (arguably bettered only by Ferdinand in 2002 and A.Cole in 2004). He has immense experience and while I wouldn't start with him anymore, he would definitely be in the squad given that King is injured.
Downing and Lennon is fair enough, we don't have an embarrassment of riches on the left and Lennon has been playing well this season. With no SWP he pretty much had to be in there to fill out the rightwing.
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Soldato
No, be we've scored 24 more points than last year
Marvt74 said:Have you won the champions league this year?
Lol, liverpool have been far far more consitent this year than i have ever seen them. Essentially they have lost the premiership due to the head to head losses against chelsea. if we had won those we would prob be champions
Liverpool have been much better this season than last season without a shadow of a doubt.]
To be fair (can't believe I'm actually defending Sven here ), Defoe is on the reserves list so that if Owen fails to get healthy enough in time, Sven can simply swap the two of them around and take a pacey striker either way. I guess he's not in the first team since he didn't see the need to put two very similar players in the squad.
Although with that in mind, why he has taken Carrick, Hargreaves AND Jenas is beyond me. I'd take Carrick definitely, possibly one of the other two, and give the other spot to another striker really.
Still, I don't think it's that awful a squad. It wouldn't have really been much different in most people's plans anyway, bar a few backup players who most likely wouldn't start a game.
), Defoe is on the reserves list so that if Owen fails to get healthy enough in time, Sven can simply swap the two of them around and take a pacey striker either way. I guess he's not in the first team since he didn't see the need to put two very similar players in the squad.Although with that in mind, why he has taken Carrick, Hargreaves AND Jenas is beyond me. I'd take Carrick definitely, possibly one of the other two, and give the other spot to another striker really.
Still, I don't think it's that awful a squad. It wouldn't have really been much different in most people's plans anyway, bar a few backup players who most likely wouldn't start a game.
as fans we have the right o blast sven, the fa and the players at the frop of a hat but after all is said and done its Svens choice and I am looking forward to a great tournament no matter what happens......IMHO our chances left us when Owen and then Rooney got their knocks....and going with the flow of this thread it is all David Deins fault.
Good luck England and maybe this may just happen
FINAL
England 4 - 1 Brazil
Ronaldo (25)
Walcott (7, 36, 87)
Gerrard (52)
if this does happen i expect to be worshiped ok...lol
Good luck England and maybe this may just happen
FINAL
England 4 - 1 Brazil
Ronaldo (25)
Walcott (7, 36, 87)
Gerrard (52)
if this does happen i expect to be worshiped ok...lol
Soldato
Personally, I think Darren Bent should have gone instead of Walcott, as he doesn't have any experience in the Premiership, let alone international level, it's too risky.
I'm not keen on Hargreaves either and Campbell hasn't looked the player he was and I'd liked SWP to have a place as well.
Without Rooney, I do think we lack enough up front to do any real damage in the World Cup, especially if Owen is out as well.
I'm not keen on Hargreaves either and Campbell hasn't looked the player he was and I'd liked SWP to have a place as well.
Without Rooney, I do think we lack enough up front to do any real damage in the World Cup, especially if Owen is out as well.
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aumz said:
if that happens... we all have to goto where you live.. and buy you drinks non stop for 3days....
Naan_H said:
Not won anything (yet) for a start.
And the fact they went out of the champions league a lot earlier than last year with the addition of his top quality services.
Liverpools defensive record has earnt them the points this year, Crouch hasnt.
If you look at liverpools history in the PL this is one of their 4 season blips where they score 80 points.
atpbx said:
Funny you talk about the defense as winning games, i mean that is stupid because you have to SCORE goals to win games...and we have been on 10 game and 11 game winning runs, breaking club records, and been far far more consistent from start to finish of the season. And as you dont see pool week in week out dont comment on crouch cos he has won games for the club.
You would be stupid to write off liverpool; any person can see what a good job benitez is doing without a doubt.
The champions league is just one of those competitions, you can do well in one season and rubbish the next..i mean Man Utd didnt even make the uefa cup, an absolute disgrace if you ask me. Last year we did get some luck but we had our better performances in the CL than the league, just the same as arsenal and villareal this season. So to say that we are not better off than last season is stupid cos you cant just base it on the CL.
Consistency is the key, which liverpool have had this season.
Don
Naan_H said:
Ignore him, don't rise to the bait. He is a Liverpool hater, always has been and always been, enjoys trying to wind people up.
Ignore him and take part in the relevant discussion up above
Jazz said:Haven't been around much but from what I remember you support Liverpool yet you sound like Spurs fan
oh,bit below the belt,that one
Jazz said:
and if you checked the facts in the linky you kindly provided you will see he is still there on the FA board
Having a pop at Dein was down to me being very angry about the squad named (how sad is that
) at the time,and needing to vent.Just seems there must be something more to including Walcott than Sven taking 'a gamble' as he put it.His inclusion is nothing like the early introduction of Owen and Rooney to England duty as both had done the business in the prem first.Not just one assist for Southampton in a low key div1 match.Cambell is fat,slow and wrong in the head.Sven might want to take him for his experience,he currently has nothing else to offer .But with him in the squad there is always a danger that he will play him <shudder>
Cole is worth the risk tho,as all he lacks is match fitness.
Soldato
Dtab said:
To be fair he has actually scored 5 this season.
I think it's great Walcott is going, I think they should send several of the most promising young players so they get experience, just not in a playing role (training with the squad etc), however I'm not sure of his inclusion.
Heck I saw Dein blamed for Spurs not being able to reschedule their game, even though he's nowt to do with the Premiership.
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